Hey guys I wanted to get some input from yall about fishing these so called Flats and Secondary points.  First off how big is a good flat?  Plus I am still confused about what a secondary point is.  Enlighten me as much as you can besides the two questions I have asked.  I have read a little on both subjects but just wanted to here from you guys.

as far as the secondary points go there was a topic on them a couple days ago in general bass fishing i beleive started by Roadwarrior. Had a few concise definitions of primary and secondary points. Im sure you can find it with a search

I'm confused.

I've seen 'bigguns'

and I've seen 'flatuns'

How can you have both at the same time  

Clayton - Whittle your way through this thread:  http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1168522460  to get info on secondary points.  There is good info in there regarding them.  Hope this helps.

The size of the flat has nothing to do with it being productive, as with any structure the flat must have access to deep water.  

The size of the flat has nothing to do with it being productive, as with any structure the flat must have access to deep water.  

This is exactly what I was going to say.  The flat's size really has much less of an impact of its effectivness than its location.  The sharper the breakline off the flat, the better.  Bass, especially the bigger ones, feed mainly in areas where they have quick access to deep water.  

So let's say there is a flat that is 8'-10' deep and is 100 yards by 75 yards and the breakline drops slowly into 13' of water.  Then you have a flat that is 8'-10' deep that is 10 yards by 20 yards but the breakline drops from 10' to 18' sharply.  The qaulity fish will DEFINATELY be on this flat.  It may be small but big fish need security and that gives it to them.

When fishing the flats concentrate most of your efforts on the breakline.  Although there may be alot of activity visible on the surface over the top of the flat, most of those active fish will be smaller.  The large fish will sit on the breakline, dart onto the flat, pick off a meal, and rush back to the breakline and will most likely suspend over it.  

Topwaters, suspending jerkbaits, and jigs are awesome flat baits.  

Also, most flats usually have some sort of vegetation on it.  Where the vegetation forms its own breakline is another fantastic place to find quality fish.  They sit on the edge, hidden in the vegatation and they pick off prey swimming by but they feel protected in the weeds.  

Secondary points are smaller or less defined points located just after or near a "Main" point.

dont forget ripping lipless crankbaits through the grass on these flats..when you find the fish slow down and fish with trick worms or finesse worms on either split shot rigs,mojo rigs,slider rigs, or texas rig..with these you can pick the least active up..

SENKO77 you are da man.  That pic you drew was perfect.  When I posted this thopic I said to myself, I hope someone just draws me a pic!  To tell the truth I was thinking that was what a sec point was but I asked someone one time and they just went off with all this extra mumbo jumbo.  Thanks for all the info guys I feel smarter already! 8-)

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