A local board here, that I am a member of, works hand in hand with the conservation part of the corps, doing a lot for the lake.  They have told us, that if we go and do 2 or 3 trees, don't worry about it, and just be discreet.  They tell us to ask, if we are doing larger amounts, for one reason.  They just want to make sure they are in a safe place.  They have disapproved a few of our locations, as, even though there was nothing there now, a large dock was going to be built soon, and they didn't want trees impeding the path of the boats to this private dock.  It seems to be just for safety reasons.  

Muddy I personally know the DNR people in our area. Good luck half of them are a bunch of jerks....Not even remotely joking good luck...

Actually I lead an Outdoor Club at the Jobs Corps I work at. I have had much interaction with the DNR and the Park Educators and have found them to be highly educated, dedicated to their jobs and always help me with information and personal demonstrations for my kids.

Muddy,

I am with you but I am getting the feeling that improving the infrastructure?? of a pond is the job of the DNR/DEM. That having been said, I also think that they probably don't have the time, manpower, and funds to do it. Sooooo... if we were to HELP them out within reason, I don't think they would throw us in jail. Now that I'm thinking about it, I will talk to a retired DEM guy I know and see what his take is on this question.

bassinajr

interesting posts we've got going on here. what if i pust some dead trees, birdhouses, old and busted canoes and whatever else I could find and place them in different spots in the potomac river, and 10 years later, i still remember all those spots and catch fish on all of them and win 100K in an elite series event?

i heard hay bales work good for somereason. also, plastic lawn chairs, cynder blocks, pallets, and of course, the classic, xmas tree.

Whatever you end up doing muddy, be careful when you go out on that ice.  I don't want to have to go up there and fish you out.

Whatever you end up doing muddy, be careful when you go out on that ice. I don't want to have to go up there and fish you out.

Yea U right about that. I got a great reply from the DNR. Yes you do need permits, the purpose of the permits are if you are like using tires, they want to amke sure theres no grease etc going in the pond also. If you are using rocks and logs native to the area no problem, if not they want to make sure the rocks ( arent man made) gonna bleed anything into the fishery to hurt the fish population> So the DNR is making sense here and we will abide by there rules and it should be no problem if we stick to roks, brush and tress surrounding the pond>

I think creating cover is a great idea-especially in a manmade, barren pond/lake/pit.  Just wouldn't use a lot of garbage when doing it.

p.s., I don't think any anger was intentionally directed at you.  Most of the venting seems to be generalized at tourney folks who use "less than completely ethical" practices.  Money ruins everything.

I think creating cover is a great idea-especially in a manmade, barren pond/lake/pit. Just wouldn't use a lot of garbage when doing it.

p.s., I don't think any anger was intentionally directed at you. Most of the venting seems to be generalized at tourney folks who use "less than completely ethical" practices. Money ruins everything.

Absolutely, no anger felt. I do not fish competitvely and was just looking for the kind of answers i had that led me to contacting the DNR 8-)