Alot of my lake is mossy or weedy almost to the surface (the areas I can fish that is). Got my boy a Mann's minus 1 yesterday, and I'm thinking of "borrowing" it from him (red crawdad). At a leisurely retrieve it only goes a couple of inches down. On a fast retrieve it only goes a foot. So, I'm thinking that would be great for me. It could be just swimming along minding it's own business but also dive down just enough to tick the weed tops without the worries of hanging up to bad. Plus the joker is heavier than my KVD square bills so it will cast further I think. At wally world they were either the same price or really close to it.

here's the webby. It's actually Mann's 1-minus. http://www.mannsbait.com/searchitems.asp?Groupname=Minus%20Series%20-%20Freshwater

Well the nice thing about the square bills is that they run pretty shallow so they work well for fishing over weeds if they aren't too close to the surface. I love the KVD square bills but I bought a bunch of Bombers from BPS because they had them on sale for $1.99 each. One other thing about a square bill, they seem to have a different wobble than a round bill so you're showing the fish something different.

Where did you see the 1.5 at