SWMIBASSER

A Pflueger supreme 8030 is 1.720 at the lip line feeds from, and 1.032 ID where line is spooled. The reel spool not the spare is slightly larger....Maybe to compensate for the Titanium coating on the lip? 1.732, and 1.050.

I can't comment yet on the castability of the Extreme. But the Prolite has the same dual braking system, and it's amazing how that reel casts.

Hard jerkbaits, medium to deep cranks, and IMO that is about all it's good for. 6.3.1 is perfect for just about everything cept' maybe buzzbaits which I never fish....The 7.1's are good for rattle baits, and jigs/worms/other contact baits.

We all know that Johnny Morris abused you as a child. Time to move on.

You already own the reel. Yes upgrade it. To buy it, and then upgrade it....Probably not worth it. I swapped a handle from one of the David Fritts reels on to mine...I like it...I might swap a higher abec rated stainless bearing onto the main gear shaft, and call it good enough....Might not even do that.

Yeah I think I might actually supertune the 46C4 I have and use it for swimbaits. There are many more friction points in those reels so supertuning is worthwhile. There is tons of available stuff for them....But I've sidelined all my round reels for everything else.

I always have to tinker with everything. So I'd like to start looking for an upgradable reel. Bearings, carbon handle, super tuned, carbon drag possibly painted? Maybe something that shares parts with other reels so that gear swaps are a possibility. Shimano is out. I'm thinking.......Daiwa TD Pro from BPS, Daiwa Black Widow, Abu Revo SX, Pflueger Summit.... Happy to take recommendations

Honestly other than an Asaro Pflueger I don't think I would find a better reel than the BPS ProLite. With an extra set of drag washers, a pawl, and a couple upgraded bearings it would last forever. The best features.....It's light, built on a smaller frame than almost everything else out there, and doesn't pick up a ton of line......Not crankbait slow, but not fast. And beyond that it's got features that you want in any reel, aluminum frame, forged handle/drag star, 7 bearings.......The dual braking works really well, and you can absolutely BOMB X-raps with it.....Had to take it out last weekend and see what's up.

Anymore info on the Black widow reels.....Metal frame/Sideplates? Where are you getting your bearings, and have you used them from that source awhile? Of all the reels to trick out I've thought about doing some stuff to a 4600C4 I have to put on a swimbait rod. ;D

Oh the guarantee on the box comment was just a homage to Tommy Boy ;D I don't use one, but in helping my son (he's 4) practice casting his zebco 33 I can't help but think that it would be the IDEAL reel for skipping docks. Nice line up BTW!!

Honestly do the aluminum gears take away from the warm fuzzy guarantee on the box feeling in your belly? Because it does me. And I've got a couple reels in my future that have those as well......Hopefully those hold up fine.

Here are a few pictures of the reel broken down.

I have the SHR821S. I really like it. I bought it to fish one of my favorite techniques.....And for Shakin' it is perfect. For drop shotting I prefer a longer rod, with a higher lure rating to be able to handle the drop shot weights I use. In my mind there are better rods. Rogue rods are lighter, and just as sensitive for less money. But, the total combination of weight sensitivity, length, action, and warranty make it a great rod.

Fill me in on what the point of the rod grip wrap is please.

The extreme is actually a pretty solid built reel. Aluminum frame, bearings in all the right places, and the dual braking works pretty well. What kind of quality are the bearings? I don't know. But I have to assume they aren't any worse than anything else out there. I've got a bunch of pictures of this reel broke down as I was thinking about doing a write up on how to strip down a BPS reel. If you wanna see what they look like on the inside I can post em up. I've been an ABU fan since a kid, but in my mind the Extreme gets the nod for a smoother reel with dual braking, and solidly built consruction

Rogue Rods E21 Carrot Stix Falcon All good rods in your price range. Watch for sales on the high end BPS rods, Johhny Morris Signature and Elite rods.

To clarify, and after reviewing that post..................... Last I knew BFL entries for a non boater were $100 Boater was $150 or $200 At 35 to 60 per day your $100 entry fee goes to $170-$220.

This could be a whole other topic but I think that is way to much to pay for gas to a non boater. Based on BFL entry fee's last I knew by the time you pay that much you are approaching the entry fee of a boater. And yeah then you have to pay for gas, but it's also your boat. Your success is in your hands. From what I've heard there are plenty of boaters in BFL who aren't offering much in the way of a learning oppurtunity and certainly not reliably putting you into fish. On top of that the boater NEEDS you to fish. And he was planning to be there anyway. $20 now covers that IMO. $40 when gas was so high. A local club member or buddy on the other hand I'd be more willing to pitch in gas money. Those are just my thoughts. Call me cheap if you would like. i thought non-boater enter fee was half the boaters fee.............. then add up-keep, gas, oil, insurance, i dont se non-boaters fees being close to that of a boater. That's twice in one thread you didn't read all of my posts or quotes. If you bring what the poster quoted says to bring, you are close to the entry of a boater. Upkeep etc is only an issue if you don't own a boat. Which MANY boaters do. Oil costs are negligible, and upkeep and insurance are things a boat owner is paying for anyways. As far as gas costs if you are a boater I mentioned that but weighed that against the benefit of being in your boat, in the front of it, controlling your success. If I'm pitching in that much I would just bring my own boat..

This could be a whole other topic but I think that is way to much to pay for gas to a non boater. Based on BFL entry fee's last I knew by the time you pay that much you are approaching the entry fee of a boater. And yeah then you have to pay for gas, but it's also your boat. Your success is in your hands. From what I've heard there are plenty of boaters in BFL who aren't offering much in the way of a learning oppurtunity and certainly not reliably putting you into fish. On top of that the boater NEEDS you to fish. And he was planning to be there anyway. $20 now covers that IMO. $40 when gas was so high. A local club member or buddy on the other hand I'd be more willing to pitch in gas money. Those are just my thoughts. Call me cheap if you would like.

youd be non-boating from the dock trying to bring 9 rods as a non-boater in my boat.......................lol. id do 1 top water rod, 1 mid-depth rod, and 2 bottom feeders That's why I mentioned to thin that down based on what the boater is planning to do/go

All of my Musky rods are Gander Mountain rods.... Thinking about getting another Gander rod for swimbait fishing

Two 7ft MH Crankin' rods. A 7ft Drop shot rod 7ft shakey head rod 7ft tube/wacky rod 7'6 MH Jig/pitching rod 6'6" MH Falcon Lowrider Jerkbait rod (yes I was more specific with that one on purpose ) 7ft MH rod for various plastics. 7ft H rod for swim baits. Taking into account where you are fishing, bring any rod you think you might need. Talk to your boater before hand and narrow it even further. In my mind you would never need any more rods than that.

It can't be! The best thing to hit fishing (shimano) since the hook let you down?!

Daiwa ;D

It's a Daiwa. You can't go wrong.