Chris

How many of you take the time to post on the other pages besides the first? There is 9 or 10 pages of great stuff.

Ahhh now I know whatcha talking about! I think I own about three of the original ones and 15 to 20 of the smaller ones river runt style. They sit in a case collecting dust with the other old lures I collect. I can't say that I have ever used any of them but I can remember my Dad has caught a bunch of fish on them.

I have done well fishing senkos wacky style, drop shot, texas rig, carolina rigged, I have fished them like a jerkbait, I have flipped with them. Its a tool and i have other baits that can be used to replace it. For me its not a bait i use year round but it could be. I tend to use it in the early spring. The rest of the year i have better options. SenkoSam is right on target if your vast knowledge of fishing is centered on just using a senko your going to miss out on a truck load of great fishing.

What is it? got a picture? Web page?

All i can say is try them some do and some don't fall the same as a senko. Some of the off brands work well some stink. If i where you i would stick with the original.

If you hunt around on this forum there are more than one post on both subjects.

When to throw wood baits? For some they throw them all the time. I tend to like to throw wood when I am fishing wood structure. A wood crankbait tends to get through a tree better than plastic and will back up when its paused to help get unhung. I also like wood in weeds for the same reason. I tend to use wood baits in spring through summer. Thats not to say they will not work thoughout the year. I tend to fish wood lures fast! I almost speed reel them. I have also found that wood lures are great for tournaments because most don't throw them. (atlease the tournaments around here) Also with a wood lure each lure swims different so i feel like i am fishing something different than everyone else.

Here is another trick you take a lure like a tennessee tuffy and you take a jigsaw and cut the lip so that its right on the edge of the line tie and the split ring hangs over the edge of the lip. The bait still has a great swimming action but now you have a better controle of depth. With your rod positioned down the bait will run about 4 ft and with the rod up it will run about 2 ft. Its a great bait for flats. Also the bait runs positioned straight instead of nose down.

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If its a full booded Florida bass or half blooded or gorilla bass they all spawn. I think the guy was full of it or misinformed. I mean unless they came out with a new brand of bass that i am not aware of but i doubt it. When a florida bass gets bigger you can tell by its bug eyes. What i would do is send a scale or three to the DNR and have them test it to figure out what kind of bass it is.

(and you wonder why populations fall) Anyhow the retrieves i use are just a straight retrieve, slow roll,stop and go, burn it, jerky retrieve,(crank, crank, stop, crank, stop, crank, crank,crank,stop,jerk,stop) Also i sweep the rod or fish a crankbait like a worm. If your fishing on top of weed flats use a rattle trap or a wood crank so that if the crankbait gets caught you can stop and it will back up out of the weeds. You can use a real shallow crankbait to buzz just under the surface too. Jerkbaits are another lure that works well in grass. Wood i tend to use a crankbait that either has a square bill or a rounded one (check the post i did on crankbaits in another thread) If i have a lone peice of structure like a stump i will use a coffen bill because the bait will bounce of the stump and shoot out away from it further than a round or square bill. It will also cause a reaction strike. If your looking to ram the structure use a straight retreave because it will hang less often on the structure. Another tactic is to reel the bait right up against the stump and rip it off the stump. That tactic also works well on standing timber too. If your fishing dropoffs you can fish the bait parallel to the drop or have it drop off the edge. Cat tails you need to fish either parallel to or you can throw to the indentions in the grass and reel it out to the deeper water. A timber tiger can be a great lure if your going to 4 wheel drive though them but remember that cat tails grow in a peat bottom and you need to keep your lure off the bottom. Also beef up your line because the cat tail can cut your line easy if you get stuck.

I guess we posted at the same time and said the same thing lol I guess great minds think alike lol

Around where I live there are a few old mines they turned into lakes. They are great fishing. I do have one that i fish thats shaped the way your talking about so maybe this will help. Take out your spinning rod and throw a tube. Toss the bait right to the edge of the drop off and let it fall all the way to the bottom. Watch your line because when they grab it the line will tick or it will stop sooner than it should. Bass in lakes like this tend to suspend alot and will nose up to the drop off. You can fish the edge parallel with a crankbait or rattletrap and do well. Just because its 15 ft deep doesn't mean the fish will be hugging the bottom most of the time they will be hanging 8 ft down or shallower. In the summertime you might see them in the grass so try a scum frog. You gotta figure that your fishing structure and the drop off is the structure now you just need to figure out at what depth they are hanging on the structure. A jigging spoon is another option. You may also want to take the time and look around with your depth finder. I know in alot of the mines around here there are big bolders on the bottom that they left and fish hang on them. Also check the shore for any signs of trees sometimes one falls in and you would never know it till you ran over it with your depth finder. Maybe one side is shallower than the other? My point is there might be more down there than you think. If it has a launch ramp then the ramp is a point. Good luck!

Great question Pond-Pro! answer~> anywhere and everywhere! I fish it deep, i fish it shallow, i fish it in the pencil grass, in pads, trees, down logs, docks, buzzing it on top, counting it down to suspended fish, you can swim it next to the bottom. You can fish it like a crankbait or spinnerbait and in the same places. Its not a cure all but you can fish it in more places than you would think and catch fish. When you fish a jig on the bottom it looks like a crawfish when you swim it the jig looks like a shad or bluegill.

If i remember right a few years ago Bass Pro Shops bought Pflueger and now owns the company. They made the announcement in one of their catalogs i think last year or they year before.

It makes it look like a stessed fish yeah.

its the raising and lowering of the rod while reeling the lure causing the lure raise and fall on retreave

Its when you use a jig like a crankbait instead of fishing it hopping along the bottom you reel it like a crankbait sometimes with a pumping action.

My fish tend to smile after they had a mouth full of pork and they lick their lips after they nail one of my plastic trailers too. ;D I think everyone uses what they like and most will stand by their choice and some will fight tooth and nail just because they feel so strongly about what they use. I think it just boils down to what works for you. Dang i miss fishing ;D

Concerning taste or scent, Dr. Jones, a phd fish biologist working at Berkley, maintains that fish cannot taste or smell oil or fat. Water soluble scents and protein based solutions are the only substances bass can detect. Define Protein? From what I recall Protein comes from meat. Pork chunks make up fat, skin and meat. Fish view salt in the same way as blood and reaffirms that the offering is real when taken into the fish's mouth. I would agree that fish cannot smell oil or fat but fish can see something oily and is viewed as a slime coat and baitfish have a natural discharge that is similar to fat dispersing in the water.

Well Glenn ya made me put on my jacket and hook up my depth finder. lol I'm not saying i am wrong or right but try it yourself listen to your transducer at hyper scroll and at a low setting and tell me if there is a difference. P.S. I am glad to see that my batteries still work ;D

I have caught several within the past 3 years that had black spots on them both in clear and muddy water. I asked a Game Warden one time and he said it could be that the fish was leaning up against something or it could be a fungus. But i never got a good answer out of him. It almost looked like finger prints so it could be that someone handled the fish and had something on their hands.

Where does the sensor at the back of the boat read in the water and how come the screen is always moving? The sensor sends sound waves that bounce off the bottom. The higher the scroll speed the more frequently the senser sends the sound waves. Your depth finder is always moving because its updating itself between sound waves.

I just got the new Bass Pro Shops Master Catalog Yippy! Did anyone see anything that they liked in it?

I think on all closed eye spinnerbaits you have the same problem of the line twisting around the eye. Its just something you will have to deal with its not the line really its the design of the bait. I have some closed eye spinnerbaits that i love and catch a ton of fish with. I have the same problem no matter what pound test i use. When i use a tube trailer its one the spinnerbaits that have an umbrella skirt like a terminator skirt. i just push the head of the tube over the base of the skirt. I think either rattle back or lunker lures has a spinnerbait that is made to be used with just a tube without a skirt. It had a weird blade on it and it caught fish.