quan - you ever had any luck launching out of Bull Run? Any suggestions on places to check out tomorrow morning? I think I may turn right out of the marina and check out some coves and points upstream. DJ I also plan on heading out early tomorrow morning but I'll be launching out of Bull Run. Interested to hear how you do (good luck!). I also just got a topo map but this is only my second time out there so definitely still trying to learn as much as possible...