ChrisD46

I see TW just got in the new Sebile Action First Flat Belly Walker ... I saw this lure in a video from ICAST '14 - very unique top water and perhaps what could be the easiest walking bait available ...Nice color selection and priced right - I plan on trying ASAP in the 4.25" length .

Additionally , I see the 7'11" Heavy casting rod is rated up to 1.5oz. while the 7'9" Heavy casting rod is rated up to 3 oz. ...It appears the 7'9" model is for punching thick mat while the 7'11" is more for general flipping ?

For those using #8 fluorocarbon - any line handling issues on a spinning reel ?

Thanks ForrestC88 ... Need to identify a good jerkbait , top water and spinner bait / swim jig / paddle tail soft plastcs rods within the new 2.0 Veritas line up .

First , do you believe the Veritas 2.0 casting rods appear to be on the stiffer side of their stated ratings ? Secondly , with the exception of the Frog and Crank models - none of the other Veritas 2.0 casting rods mention suggested technique or application ...Anyone care to take a stab at applications / technique for the models between 6'6" - 7'3" what they are intended for ? ...I surmize that the 7'6" and 7'11" models are for flipping / punching ...It's the other models that I'm curious about regarding technique for popular applications such as : top water , jerkbait , worm , jig , etc. Thanks in advance !

I have a small promo spool of Sunline Sniper 7lb. fluoro I am going to try first ... If I can't get that to work with a shaky head rig then no fluro probably will and I will switch to braid + FC leader.

Not to threadjack - but never could figure out how to rig a regular Fluke (except nose hooking it) as the belly comes down to such a , thin , abrupt angle making it difficult to rig like a Super Fluke with a EWG hook ...What's the best way to rig a regular Fluke then ?

+1 ... Seibert Outdoors - all you need to know .

+1 ... Got to believe this is the best size under most conditions ...

Thanks - I did find the Drop Shot model Sellus and I would call that ML Fast (not M XF as labled) ...Fine for drop shot and perhaps even lighter cranking - but a little to "whippy" for me to use as a shakey head rod . Still , a nice light rod though ...

After additional reading I was amazed to see how many pros have switched from pure fluoro on their shaky head spinning rigs to 10lb. ~ 15.lb braid + 6lb. ~ 10lb. FC leader ... My short list of braids would be Sufix Performance Braid , 832 or Power Pro in the Super Slick 8 (or even standard PP) ... Now I am very interested in the Sunline SX1 braid which looks mighty fine for a shaky head + Sunline Sniper 7lb. FC as a leader ...Worse case , if I didn't like it I could always use it for surface baits or pitching & flipping to bluegills !

Which Shimano Sellus spinning rod is the correct # for the shakyhead technique ? ... All sites I visit (including Shimano) say the Sellus line is technique specific - but none tell you which Sellus spinning rod is specific to shakyhead ? ...Two models of : "Worm & Jig" in the line up don't help explain eiter ... Thanks in advance !

8lb. fluoro was THE line to use for drop shotting - now braid as a mainline with a fluoro leader is becoming quite the deal ...Explain your setup : Braid to small Spro barrel swivel ? Line to line knot ? What line to hook , etc. ?

+1

I would try the uni to uni knot OR the Alberto (crazy) knot and see which you like best ...I use both with good results .

I appreciate the many replies - most rods mentioned I have not researched before , so good to have additional choices to consider .

I appreciate the replies - I understand for frogs , flip / pitch in cover you want that 50lb. ~ 65lb. braid . The "all others" category using braid on a baitcaster is where I was thinking about that 30lb. ~ 40lb. area .

If using one of the more modern popular braids (Sufix Performance Braid / 832 , Power Pro / Super Slick 8 , etc.) assuming you use good baitcast braid spooling practices (mono backing , wind on tight, etc.) what is your preferance as the lightest you will go between 30lb. or 40lb. on a baitcaster ? Main concerns are digging in and wind knots - thanks in advance !

I would think a oval shaped split ring would come into play more if you were using larger diameter mono where directly tieing to the lure would impede the action . With thin diamter braid you are removing that happening .

Can braid + Fluoro leader transmit movement / vibrations to a shakyhead as well as straight fluoro ?

What is your preference on a spinning outfit for a shakey head setup : Braid plus fluorocarbon leader OR straight fluorocarbon line ? I would think straight fluorocarbon line would allow better contact and subtle shaking of the worm vs. braid plus fluorocarbon ...Your experiences ?

After further research I found a couple of Cabella's spinning rods I did not know about - the Pro Guide and Tournament (both 6'10" M-XF) . Also the Shimano Sellus spinning (either the 6'8" or 7"1" M-XF) ... Not sure which of these Sellus lengths would be better suited for shakyhead - only concern with the 7'1" is potential for being tip heavy ? ...Anyone have experience with Cabella's rods or lower end Shimano rods ?

Below are the models I am considering for Shaky Head applications : Abu Garcia Vendetta 2.0 6'9" ML - XF Powell Diesel 6'10" M - XF St. Croix MoJo 6'9" ML - XF Not able to find much else specific to spinning shaky head <$100 ... Your thoughts ?

All good replies to date - I should have added that conditions are : Little to no cover with typical clay , rock bottom reservoirs of Georgia . Line will be 7lb. Sunline Sniper and shaky head weights will generally be 3/32nd oz. , 1/8oz. and 3/16th oz. (depending on conditions and depth. Water depth is generally closer to shore out to 12ft. to 15 ft. max. I like the idea of a 7 ft. spinning rod length . As for power the "Mag ML" to "M" mentioned above seem right and the action (FX or F) will depend on the rod I'm sure as all are different . The key for me is what Ontario Fishing Guy & Delaware Valley Tackle stated - a rod tip that will flex if you want to shake it slightly OR a more subtle approach by tightening the slack and letting the natural movement of your hand gently make your bait quiver . Next question is what about modulus of the rod ? Can you find a rod with good feel and sensitivity that is comprised of IMS-6 graphite (<$100) or do you have to move up to a IMS-7 or 8 graphite which is usually going to be over that $100 mark ? Lastly , the new 32 ~ 48 ton compressed graphite rod construction - what affect does that process provide for feel and sensitivity in a rod ? Thanks again !

I'm looking for a dedicated spinning shaky head rod under $100 to pair with a spare Shimanao 2500 series Sahara spinning reel . Specifically : What length (6'6" ~ 7'0" ?) , tip (XF or F ?) and action (ML or M ?) do you consider ideal if you wanted a dedicated shaky head spinning rod outfit ? ...Thanks in advance !