Troutfisher

Welcome aboard!

Glad to see a member of the military on the board!

Better to take chances and settle things with them before they produce nuclear capabilities than after.

Oh, yeah, the Saudis are well meaning friends of the U.S. all right. http://www.danielpipes.org/article/995

Get back in that UPS truck, LBH! ;D ;D ;D

The President has not said that his policy failed, he has not said that Iraq is a disaster, and he has not said that he is going to cut and run in Iraq. Iraq is not in chaos; the media would have you to believe that, but if you ask a soldier, you'll hear a different story. If the New York Times, Washington Post, and the mainstream media had people stationed in Japan during World War II, they would have had similar headlines, except that it would have been thousands killed a day. In war, you are going to have deaths. Constructing a democracy is hard work, especially when the enemy you are fighting are cowardly enough to hide amidst honest civilians.

Those are very true words. Y'see, some people don't realize that not only did the United States Military take control of the country, but they also are training soldiers to have a full fledged democracy. Establishing a country takes a long time, not just get it, get out. Without the proper training, the Iraqi policemen and militia won't stand a chance against neighboring countries, and all the effort put forth by our soldiers, and those who died in action, would have been in vain.

No problem...I've been wanting to give my fly rod a run up there, and I'll even bring it, but I'll start off fishing with spinning gear and can't stop.

The Greenbrier is approximatey 3-ft deep, with several deep holes that range to about 10 ft. The typical smallie is about 12 inches, however, there have been several lunkers pulled out of there. When I went this past summer, I caught a 3 lb beauty on a live crawdad. The river is very healthy and maintains a healthy smallie population, as well as a good trout population. I haven't caught any largemouth in the river, although I know they're there. When I was canoeing a while back, we drifted over a deep hole, and we saw several BIG fish laying on the bottom...not sure if they were carp or catfish. The river is about 3 hrs away, but me and my grandpa camp there frequently.

Two sentences I disagree with, Avid. Poll numbers can be very deceiving. The media will send out a poll, such as, "Do you like war?" Of course, no one "likes" war, but sometimes, war is necessary. However, they will use the line "do you like war?" when they release a new poll on Iraq. Iraq was a ticking time bomb. July 16, 1979: Takes over as president of Iraq after pushing his cousin, President al-Bakr, to resign. Purges the Baath Party, eliminating his rivals in a power grab captured on videotape. (The chilling video shows a meeting of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council where members identified by Saddam as having suspect loyalty are removed from the hall to be shot.) Sept. 22, 1980: A year after the Islamic revolution in neighboring Iran, tensions rise between Iran and Iraq. Saddam orders his troops to invade. The inconclusive eight-year war impoverishes Iraq and kills hundreds of thousands of soldiers on both sides. (Washington and its allies supported Saddam to help stave off victory by Iran.) July 8, 1982: Survives assassination attempt in Dujail, a mainly ****e Muslim town 25 miles north of Baghdad. In retaliation, Saddam's security forces attack the town, arresting about 1,500 residents. (Many faced torture, and nearly 150 Dujail residents were later executed on Saddam's orders. The events in Dujail are the subject of the criminal charges in Saddam's initial trial.) March 28, 1988: Uses chemical weapons against Kurdish town of Halabja in northern Iraq, killing an estimated 5,000 civilians. (The attack is part of the government's campaign to suppress rebellious Kurds across northern Iraq. The campaign leaves 180,000 Kurds missing and presumed dead.) Aug. 2, 1990: Saddam demands that Kuwait forgive the debts taken on by Iraq during the Iran war, then invades his tiny, oil-rich neighbor. Jan. 17, 1991: Gulf War starts with aerial bombing of Iraq and Iraqi troops in Kuwait by U.S. and allied militaries under the name Operation Desert Storm. Feb. 24-27, 1991: Iraqi troops are ejected from Kuwait after a brief ground war with a U.S.-led coalition. Saddam survives the greatest threat yet to his government when coalition troops advance into Iraq, but decide not to besiege Baghdad. March 1991: In the north, the Kurds rise up against Saddam's rule. In the south, ****e Muslims do the same. Saddam unleashes his military on both. (Although President George H.W. Bush encouraged the revolts, the U.S. did not intervene and Saddam retained power in Baghdad.) Feb. 20, 1996: Orders killing of two sons-in-law who had, in 1995, defected to Jordan and revealed details of Saddam's weapons programs. (They had returned to Baghdad after receiving guarantees of safety.) Sept. 12, 2002: President George W. Bush challenges U.N. to confront the "grave and gathering danger" of Iraq -- or stand aside as the United States and like-minded nations act. March 17, 2003: President Bush gives Saddam Hussein and his sons 48 hours to leave Iraq or face "the full force and might" of the American military. Iraq's leadership rejects Bush's ultimatum. March 20, 2003: U.S. forces open the war with a military strike on Dora Farms, a target south of Baghdad where Saddam and his sons are thought to be. Saddam appears on Iraqi television later in the day. Further air bombardment is followed by a ground invasion. U.S. forces advance rapidly toward Baghdad. April 9, 2003: Iraq's regime collapses as U.S. forces enter central Baghdad. Residents cheer as a huge statue of Saddam is toppled. July 22, 2003: Saddam's sons Uday and Qusay die in a fierce gun battle with U.S. troops. Dec. 13, 2003: Saddam is captured by U.S. forces at 8:30 p.m. in the town of Adwar, 10 miles south of Tikrit. He is hiding in a specially prepared "spider hole." December 2003: The U.S.-appointed government, the Iraqi Governing Council, establishes the Iraqi Special Tribunal to prosecute war crimes committed during Saddam's rule. The law calls for Iraqi judges to hear cases presented by Iraqi lawyers, with international experts serving only as advisers. June 30, 2004: The U.S. symbolically hands Saddam over to Iraqi authorities, but maintains physical custody of the deposed leader. The legal transfer means that Saddam is no longer a prisoner of war. He is now a criminal defendant whose treatment is governed by Iraqi law. The change in status gives him the right to legal representation. This guy was a madman. Do you merely think if we would have let this guy do his own will that everything would be fine? Look at Iran. The President has made no such statement that Iraq was a failure. He has stated that removal of troops may begin as early as late 2007.

And a good evening to you. Good to see everyone here can be mature about a little honest debate and differing viewpoints. Man, at another forum I used to belong to, if you so much as tried to give your opinion, you were looked on as "outcast".

That's cool. I saw him in 2000 when he was still Governor of Texas....he was on the campaign trail and stopped at Charleston. He gave a good speech about West Virginia. Since then, he's been back several times.

This is just some numbers. http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html Going back to what KeithsCatch said, I agree with what he said. The media portrays the President as if he is some sort of dumb animal. They make him sound ignorant, and belittle him in any way they can. There is such a thing as respect for authority. A while back, the President was having a press conference with several members of the media. One of the reporters stated, "Mr. Bush, can you answer a question for me?" He turned and said to them, "I will not answer you if you do not address me by my proper title." I have noticed since then that several news stations call the President "Mr. Bush." Anything to challenge him.

Here is an albino catfish. http://media.basspro.com/images/imagegallery/ig_2006-7-13_6-34-22_b.jpg I have heard of an "orange bass" in an issue of Bassmaster. However, I haven't heard of an albino one.

So, I assume if we would have left Saddam Hussein in power to do what he wished, that all would be fine, and he wouldn't have done anything? Right?

I understand and accept your point, Speedbead. Several people do need these programs to help htem get back on their feet, and as for disability, I know several people who readily deserve disability. The thing that gets me is when people just use the Government to get money for themselves without having to work for it. Apparently, there are more people who need welfare and other programs that outnumber the ones who abuse it. I personally believe they should have a "check-up" of sorts, to monitor people who receive welfare each month, and see how they do for several months. If they see abuse, put them off the list.

I works now. I signed up and now have several pending friend requests and have requested for other people to be my friend. This site looks like it will be big soon.

lol LBH When I first read the title, I was like, "Whoa, what did you do?!" Good pictures!

For God's sake, don't OD on painkillers. A Pastor's daughter in our area OD on Tylenol and was dead in the morning. I highly urge you not to take any, man. You will feel better. Pain killers do not help anything but temporarily relieve pain.

That's another valid point, Keithscatch. And Timmyswetarded is right as well.

Yeah, that's the same error message I keep getting. I sent an email to the question dept. and told them, so they probably will have the problem fixed ASAP.

Speedbead... My dad is a Private Investigator, who works on welfare fraud cases as well as workers compensation fraud and other types of program abuse. Yes, I have been to government offices at the first of the month, out with my dad on business, and I saw a large line of recipients getting their check. I do not believe that welfare recipients are getting rich off of what they receieve monthly. I just believe that the abusers, which is West Virginia is very high, are getting paid to sit around all day doing what they please, while my parents work hard to get their money. As far as welfare recipients buying beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets, I should have specified that I meant with their welfare check, not the food stamps. I agree whole-heartedly your point their, Flechero. What some people (not necessarily you, Avid) don't understand is that when soldiers are called to kill terrorists, that the terrorists are cowards. They duck and hide amidst honest civilians and won't show themselves, they blow themselves up with others, and one of the hardest parts is that you don't know who is a terrorist and who isn't.

Something is wrong. It won't let me register. I tried to register at school and it came up error, and I thought that it was only a school problem, but now I'm home, and it's still not letting me register. Hmmmm.......

Gameover, that's just not right. And it is also illegal.

I can't sign up here at school, so I'll have to wait until I get home to sign up. I may need some people's SN to add as friends.