Just work it different ways, as SirSnookalot said, I also vary my timing and working the pole even in the same cast... just depends.. I was on the river Sunday using a spook and pop-r, dog walking the spook pausing for a moment and repeating, everytime was different. The same with the pop-r, I would dog walk at times and others I would just pop it a number of times pause and go again, all depends how good your popper dog walks.. either way it makes those fish go crazy! They cant resist that noise and vibration! Good luck to ya!