RobDar

The used boat my father in law just bought has a PinPoint 3700 trolling motor...anyone know anything about them??? It is a 2000...so I believe that is before the motorguide buy out... I looked them up on the internet and there is precious little information other than complaints.

here is what I know... They are two different types of metal...stainless is ferrous and aluminum non ferrous...and typically the two are compatable...but there are exceptions to EVERY rule. the difference here is that niether stainless or aluminum are magnetic...which is a major contributor to galvonic action ( electricians refer to this as dia-electric). I am an electrician by trade...and have worked on SEVERAL projects...the waste water tunnels under the city of Chicago, the old coal tunnels under the city, several hospitals, Cargill IOPD refinery, and most of the grain elevators in the area...all of these instances prefer aluminum conduit (for weight mostly) and in every instance whenever we passed through a concrete wall or a hazardous/corrosive environment and had to change to standard glavanized conduit to satisfy Chicago electrical code...THE BONDING BETWEEN THE ALUMINUM AND THE GALVANIZED WAS ALWAYS DONE WITH A STAINLESS STEEL FITTING TO STOP CORROSION. now this is stuff designed by engineers...not made up by an electrician or maintenance guy. this is high tech, well planned, designs...so I always assumed the engineers knew their stuff. 1.you cannot use steel screws with aluminum... 2. and aluminum screws will break to easily... 3. boats come from the manufacturer with stainless deck screws mounting the deck to aluminum sub-structure 4. electrical equipment manufactures building for Type 2 and above hazardous locations use stainless for their cabinets...for the longevity of the cabinet and so that any and all conduit types, aluminum, pvc, coated, and galvanized can be used. I assumed the manufacturers know what they are doing...but I cannot say I ever sat down and read the science on this. the only questions remaining are these... I do not have any real data on whether the presence of water changes this...freshwater, I would say NO...since, barring contaminants, freshwater is chemically inert. Salt water....I do not know about that...it corrodes about everything eventually. there are three major alloys/types/grades of stainless steel. I cannot say I know if there is a difference between the alloys and whether one is okay and others are not. I never really paid any attention to the type of stainless being used. I do not know if the marine alloy reacts differently with stainless than the conduit alloy. The marine alloy has more boxite in it than the electrical alloy...and the electrical alloy has zinc...so I do not know for a fact if there is any differences there. most welders will tell you that you cannot mix the two...and they are right...YOU CANNOT WELD THE TWO...but there is a big difference a mechanical bond and a weld. there is alot you can do with a mechanical bond that will not work and is not allowed with a weld. I know that this is not really a definitive answer for you...sorry about that. I am not a metallurgist...but my fathers 42 years as a tool and die/ fabricator foreman and my experience in the 20 years electrical industry tells me that you can use stainless with aluminum... but I do not have any "print outs" or technical data sheets to back up those claims. I never actually sat down a researched the topic.

that is one cool old boat!!! and yes...join Iboats...great guys there! ...as with any restoration...it kinda depends on you whether it is worth it or not. Are you going to restore it and then if you decide to sell it get the value of your investment back? probably not...but you will have a really neat old boat, which has a value all its own! I would go for it...Crestliner has always been a well built boat...it is a classic. I would find out if there is any hidden value to the boat as well. I had a LoneStar I bought for $200 and had restored...restored the cable steering and everything...AFTER my father in law had traded it for a shot gun a guy saw a picture of it online and wanted to know if I still had the boat...apparently it was worth a good chunk of change because it had its original parts and was a rare Lonestar...he offered me $1800 sight unseen... so check and see if there are any classic boat clubs or collectors for that boat...it could WELL be worth it.

stainless and aluminum are fine together. I was told by a mechanic that the only problem with stainless and aluminum is when used on a high stress hull rivet. The stainless is harder than the aluminum...so on a keel rivet or other high stress local, the aluminum hull will fail/ tear before the stainless rivet...This is why the manufactuers use aluminum rivets. It is better to wreck a rivet than the hull. seemed to make sense to me...

so where are the Lake Eerie smallie fisherman? My brother is planning a trip to Sandusky and is going to take a charter one day. He has his choice of a Walleye Charter, Perch Charter, or a smallie Charter...so I was wondering how the smallie fishing was on Eerie.

so what online place do you all suggest for shopping for parts and boat supplies... there is boatersworld there is Iboats where else has everyone found to be fair priced etc etc....

I think he is looking for the actual mathmatic formula to calculate the smallest possible motor for his desired performance...he wants the exact technical data....typical of a computer guy! LOL! LOL! Just Teasing! I have heard of this before but have never found any information on it. It seems to me that there are to many variable for a calculation like this to be very accurate. The pitch on the prop, seating position in the boat, deadrise of the hull, weight of passengers, weight of gear... a good qualified guess or experience like that offered by the guys here will probably be the most helpful info you will find.

I know, not bass fishing...but the news just did a story ona guy who caught a Pirahna in North Carolina... A PIRAHNA?????? he thought he had a catfish and when got the fish up it attacked him...was apparently a fair sized fish as well...

I think they cost about the same as a comparible Four stroke. A handful of guys we fish with...as well as a couple I have seen out and about while fishing...have the E-Tec. I have not heard any major complaints about it. The reprogramming mentioned by someone else is the first time I have heard anything like that...though one of the the guys I talked to did have some sort of electrical problem...he did not know anything more than the motor would not respond to the key being turned...he said " I do not know I just drive the thing" One guy had a throttle problem...throttle was jumpy, when he pushed it forward it would lag and then jump up to its RPM's. He felt that this was a motor rigging problem not actually a problem with the motor. Another said he feels it is really sensitive to gasoline quality. He feels he notices a difference between filling up at speedway or shell...I kind of think this is his imagination since almost all gas is "pool" gas these days. ..but my father in law has had a ton of trouble with his mercury... my dad always says never buy a car built on a monday or a friday...maybe the same is true of outboards LOL!

I will never buy another Cuda series fish finder. I do not have any problems with my Fishmark...but both the Cuda's I have had were both garbage. Good for depth...WHEN IT ACTUALLY WORKS...which is not often. both the cudas I have had mark things that are not there...constantly goes off depth and suddenly I am fishing in 600 feet of water...has to be reset constantly...turns itself off randomly...stops scrolling.... of the four guys in our tourney club who has a Cuda on their boat...all four have the same complaints. pay a wee bit more...maybe as high as $200 and get yourself something worth having.

...see...I wonder if there is really much value in the control efforts. I can understand areas where the waterway may close up from the weeds. I am going to have to do some research now. There must be some other impacts that arent common knowledge.

PART ONE: Any of you have DNR doing weed kills on lakes near you? It seems everytime I turn around Indiana DNR has done a weed kill right where I want to fish! LOL! They say it does not hurt the fish..and I believe them...otherwise I think I would see a bunch of dead fish everytime they do a kill...but it sure screws up the fishing. How long does it take for the fish to accomidate? How long does that stuff stay in the water? how long till the fishing goes back to "normal"? PART TWO: I fully appreciate the problem with invasive species. I fact, my garden is all native species plants...stuff that grew here before the white man came...none of that european hybrid decorative stuff around here...BUT... I am not sure that I feel invasive plant life in lakes as much of a problem as invasive fish and mollusks. DNR says it is because the invasive weed species provide specific habitat for some invasive species of fish etc so the weed kills are kind of a " full spectrum" control..kill the habitat and reduce the invasive fish etc. but aren't they fighting a loosing battle. Most populous of both fish and weeds are brought in by birds and deposited in their waste...so how is killing off ALL the weed cover in a lake helpful? as long as there are birds...unmanaged ponds and lakes all over packed full of invasive species plants and fish...Home Depot keeps selling invasive plant species like Loosestrife and certian breeds of Lillies to people for their fish ponds... next year the whole process will have to start all over again. I feel like our lakes and rivers would be better served by concentrating monies spent on increasing native species and native species habitat...perhaps regulation of the introduction of invasive species ( at places like home depot and landscape centers)...you know, concentrate on increasing the good and stop spending tons of money on controlling the bad... start more stocking programs of native species...that kind of thing.

you should never participate in survey's etc or sites offering items for free in exchange for information. Even if you have a primary and secondary internet identity...and plan to use the secondary for this kind of thing, it is still not advisable. you would be amazed how much information someone skilled can get from just an email address and a nickname...even if they are faked. 1. these surveys add you to spam mail lists. 2. many of these surveys are not run by corporations or business's...they are one of the many "home business" opportunities you come across on the net. A large percentage of these network marketing systems are run by the guy who works at the gas station. 3. because a large percentage of these surveys are ran by individuals like you and me and people without proper security protocols...they are a MAJOR target for indentity theft and hackers. a friend of mine use to work for an ISP doing security. If everyone knew exactly what goes on from day to day and just how talented some of the hackers are...you would turn off your computer and never turn it on again.

strange that there would be so much onconsistancy in Aurora's quality...I wonder if they farm out certian makes/models to sub contractors and sell them under their name... I am and ALWAYS WILL BE a really big fan of shopping local. I believe in supporting business's close to home. ( as close as possible anyway). I will pay a wee bit more for something if I know it supports local industry or business's. It is just something I believe in. I may choose some local maker for just that reason.

...thank you every body... This is one of those things that...I am not really sure it about the money or the boat as much as it is about the project. Any boat/project like this...be it a Ranger or FBN (Fly By Night) boat will likely cost you more than the actual value of the boat if the work is thorough and done well. I think anyone who enters into a project like this one hoping to make a sound financial investment is likely making a mistake. It is like restoring cars...unless you a really shrewd and really know which cars are in the most demand...most people wont make their investment back if they sell...but that is not really WHY they restored the car in the first place. Yeah the transom could be rotted and yeah the stringer may be wood and in bad shape...but there are epoxies made for just that kind of thing... The father in law wants to fish NOW...so a restoration is not really on the books. One of these days, when I have someplace to do this kind of thing...which I do not right now...I will do a project like this...just to do one, for the experience and the education. ...and my father said the same thing a Catt...Taylor Craft was fairly well known in the Jet/Ski boat world at one time. (My father was REALLY into skiing and boating for a long time...used to belong to a Antique Chris Craft club and had hand built a few wooden boats) He believes that they were bought up by either Natique, MasterCraft, or one of their big competitors in the late 80's. He was not aware they ever made a fishing boat but he said that their boat was likely a copy of some other manufactuer. Apparently there are brokerages that sell the molds and equipment for boats from companies who have either gone under of have changed designs. He used his old boat as an example( I cannot remember the name of it...Morris maybe???...it was sold as a custom boat but was really a Browning. The company he bought the boat from bought Browning's old molds and started building boats.

you may be a wee bit too serious here...thanks tho

this is a long story but I will try and make it fast... going to Canada... well the trailer blew a hub...which we luckily noticed at a toll booth... the problem was is that this toll booth was in the UP of Michigan. The UP is like leaving the country. It is a different world there. You never really know what will be open when cause folks just may go hunting that day...and d**n near everything closes at noon on a weekend. They say it is a slower pace...I am not sure there is PACE at all, they kind of just make it up as they go. At any rate...we leave the trailer on the side of the road and go on the hunt for hub. We drove for hours...we once place, they sent us to another, that sent us to another...half of which were closed. We drove 4.5 hours trying to track down a hub...the wife was so angry she was crying. We finally found one at a NAPA store... and... you could see the first place we had stopped from the parking lot! the wife to this day is convinced that they had done this on purpose and everyone had a good laygh at the tourists.

here is the site that the info came from...there are more pictures there... http://basecampohio.homestead.com/us.html but that is all I have got

"Sam"posted a response to the "whats more important for towing" thread that hinted at some "interesting" experiences he may have had... got me thinking... What is the strangest trailering experience you have had? Mine is riding with my father in law pulling his Javelin on his tanem axle trailer. We are driving along I-94, almost home, when a wheel goes whizzing past us... we were like... Oh look at that someone lost their wheel! it took only a second to realize it was OUR WHEEL... bouncing along down the expressway on its way to where it wanted to go... it actually leaned and started down an exit ramp...like it was stopping off for coffee or something.

yeah...go with one made for your boat and BE SURE to get one referred to as TRAILERABLE. There are Trailerable covers and storage covers...two completely different qualities of cover! I would order it from a Triton Dealer, but call several for prices. I was recently shopping for new cover for my boat and I found the prices were all over the board! For the same cover, ordered from Tracker, there was as much as a $200 dollar difference from Dealer to Dealer.

most theives go for the easy target...just putting the cover on your boat will deter all but the most interested theives. If your boat is covered and the guy down the row is not...they will go for the uncovered boat. we had some thefts at a tournament last year...but during the day...while we were on the water...we came back and four trailers were missing their fenders...two were missing one tail light. People steal the strangest stuff. ...this is off the topic...but the best anti theft alarm I have ever seen...after having had his truck broken into and having been car jacked several times...a plumber I know who does emergency home insurance work gets sent into some of the worst neigborhoods in Chicago...every call he looks at the map and if it is in the "red zone" as he calls it...he takes Sarge, his 140 pound Bull Mastiff. Sarge just sits there on the front seat...and oh boy do not approach Sarge's truck!

actually no...I cannot get you a wider view that is the picture from the web. it is what it is.

so my father in law is looking for a new boat...I told him a project boat might be fun ( because apparently I just cannot live with any free time in my life at all LOL!) so I came across this... I have never heard of a TaylorCraft before...but this boat...oh boy is it a PROJECT BOAT! The thing is gutted...but the compression test apparently came out fine and the seller says it starts and runs... but the floor???? Does not look like wood... Does not look like Fiberglass.... I am not sure what this is...

doesn't the Okuma have a lifetime warranty? Okuma is all my wife fishes with for just that reason.

in my opinion...fishing reels are like cars. They are guys who swear by Chevy...and others who would not be caught dead driving one...and both have their reasons and perhaps both are justified...but the reality is that there are TOOO many variables. How often you fish...what you fish with..how you fish...where you fish...what species you fish for...your maintenance habits...all have an effct on the longevity and performance of your reel ( when comparing reels in the same price range ) It is more a matter of what is a good reel for you. If you are comfortable with it, it works well, and are happy with your purchase then...money well spent...if not, do not buy another one. ...any reel you buy there will be someone who hates that reel and someone who swears by it.