as we all know lipless cranks often hang up on weeds, branches, and what i find the most frustating themselves. when the back hook, hooks onto the front hook.

i just want to tell a few ways to stop this

1. have thje back hook smaller than the front hook.

2.remove the front hook

3.or replace the back hook with a rear hook ofn a popper(the hook with the feathers on it)

4. or mix #1 with #4

if you have anyother ideas to stop crank's from snagging and tangling please tell me

What kind of lipless baits do you use?  I can't really say I've had that problem other than when they are in a box.

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Sorry I have never had problems like you do with traps.

I don't have any lipless cranks that get the hooks caught on each other. I  use Strike King models, Rat-L-Trap, and Hot Spots in various sizes.

Welcome to the site.

I've never had a problem with my Xcaliburs tangling.

I know, I know, this CAN'T be it... but possible it's the technique, and not the bait?  Or just crappy baits?

Welcome to the site, and be sure to check out the fishing articles.  Any skill level will benefit from some time in that section. 

I know, I know, this CAN'T be it... but possible it's the technique, and not the bait? Or just crappy baits?

Welcome to the site, and be sure to check out the fishing articles. Any skill level will benefit from some time in that section.

could be it...the hooks on most baits don't even come close to touching

With a crankbait that has a bill the lip is the weed guard and helps to deflect objects. A lipless crankbait has a flat area that acts like a narrow lip to cause the bait to vibrate. Lipless crankbaits are not designed to be weedless or snagless. They can be slung around hard cover but because of the lures posture when running the head can strike objects but sometimes because of the narrow body tends to stick these objects. When fishing lipless crankbaits in weeds your going to be picking weeds from time to time. There is not a sure fire way to make this bait completely weedless even if you put weedless hooks on it. If your hooks are fouling up and interlocking then you need to shorten the gap between the two hooks either by a small adjustment like changing the size of the split rings or more drastic change the size of the hook or style of hook. You could use a short shank hook or a triple grip hook that has a hook angle that helps with snags for example. Rattletrap has a slogan a school of baitfish in every lure. Well where do you find schools of baitfish on flats, ledges, open water areas, edge of cover, or creek channels to name a few. I mention this because sometimes people use a lure in the wrong areas that the bait was not designed to be used in where another tool would be better. This lure is a heck of an option for weeds because you can fish it with braid and rip the rod to clean it from most weeds that get hung on it. Around stick ups your going to snag it occasionally but that is just part of the deal. Most snags can be prevented by paying attention to depth control. Vibrating baits (not including floating styles) sink when it hits the water and can be counted down to a specific depth when needed. Floating traps tend to act like a regular crankbait in the respect that it can be pauses to get out of snags but it is not a sure thing. The running depth for the 1/4 oz model runs about 3ft on 10 lb line. Meaning when you make a cast and start you retrieve the lure at a moderate cranking speed will dive down to that depth. 1/2 oz lures tend to run at 4-5 ft range. In both cases the rate that you reel the lure and the drag you have on the size line effects the running depth of this lure greatly. Rod position also effects the depth of this bait. Where the line tie ring on the lure is placed when it was manufactured effects the posture of the lure and the resistance it has moving through the water which also effects the depth and vibration pattern. With a lip crankbait the lip causes the bait to gain depth with a vibrating bait the resistance of the vibration, the weight of the lure, speed of retrieve, and how far you count it down effects the depth. How wide the surface area is on the head of the bait effects how far the lure vibrates from side to side. Each lure is different and give different pressure waves when ran through the water. Some work better than others in clear, stained, and muddy water. Depending upon which style vibration you use can make a difference in maximizing the fish potential of the lure.

i think he means that the hooks get tangled in the line after a strike or a tail swat,or bump.

What brand bait are you using and are the hooks the original hooks or did you upsize them? And welcome to a great site.