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Triple Fish Camo Line-The Only "almost Invisible Line" & Great Price

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I didn't want to start a post about Fluorocarbon and the Refractive Index of Light when Fluorine is compared to Mono underwater, or the studies showing most Fluorocarbons stretch more than Mono of equal diameters. I did want to post the following statement that I have been messing with and seem to have reached this conclusion along with John Crews, and several reputable scientists....

 

Fluorocarbon is Certainly not INVISIBLE & has only a SLIGHTY BETTER REFRACTIVE INDEX # COMPARED TO NYLON, AND NUMBER IS A TINY  FRACTION. SAME WITH THE DENSITY CLAIM & SINKING PROPERTY.....IF BOTH LINES ARE EQUAL DIAMETER AND HAVE A 1/4 OZ. LURE ON THEM, FLUORO WILL BARELY SINK FASTER. COMPANIES ARE SELLING 15LB TEST FLUORO WITH BREAKING STRENGTHS OF 12LB TEST, SO OF COURSE IT IS THINNER, BUT I COULD CARE LESS WHICH LINE SINKS FASTER WITHOUT A LURE ON IT SINCE THAT IS NOT HOW WE FISH.

 

I realize that it does not matter what "we" see but what matters is what the Bass can See. I have felt the Bass Industry is pushing Fluorocarbon Sales in  Magazines, and to anyone who will listen, and I am a guy who pitches it a few days a week. Here is what a rep from a major Reel company told me recently.....Braid is cutting into line sales since it rarely needs replacing, and Mono and Copolymers are inexpensive. Why is it Saltwater magazines and Saltwater Pro's are not pushing Fluorocarbon mainline? Is it because Heavy 100 lb test Mono is not cheap, 80lb Fluoro Leader is Plenty Expensive, you also need to carry alot more sizes than bass fishing as well as Snook can cut up to #80, so leader is all they shoot for.....Abrasion....not really the visual aspect for the most part.

 

Moral of this story, and I am not claiming to be a line expert, I am truly trying to undertand the science and I want to believe in Fluoro which has led me to try all the Major labels and here is where I think the problem is. I am sure this is not groundbreaking, and I do realize some of the problems in my position & argument that I am laying out. I am aware some of the hardcores may call me out on 1 huge hole in my argument, which I am trying to wrap my head around.

 

There is not an FDA to validate claims these companies make, and there is not a "Gold Standard" as not all Line is created equal......I found 2 brands of Fluoro to be very good, 1 ok, and the rest not good at all.

 

However, I would say that I trust Seaguar and Yo-zuri Products and would call them Reputable companies, so how is it they sell on the same shelf the following: invisible Light Green, Pink, Red, and Clear? Obviously it depends on the color of the water, and that is where I can say with certainty that the Camo colored Line of Green, Purple and Brown is not only tough to see in all water tints-(even my pool), but it seems to have been outproducing any fluorocarbon as far as strikes are concerned in very crude tests of course. I am glad I love my braids, some copolymers, Some mono, but very happy to have rediscovered and ordered some Camo Perlon Line which is very affordable at Tackle warehouse....2000 yards of 6lb test is $8.99.

 

However, I found 6lb to be weaker than the Yo-zuri I am used to for obviousl reasons like Diameter, but for Finesse fishing, 8-10 is solid, 12-18 is great for cranking to flipping, and #25 is good for heaviest of applications.......It is hard to see, decent memory, knots are reliable, and perlon is actually decent, just not as strong according to tackle tour as they state, but close enough as its better than many other labels. Triple Fish is 1 of 3 or was only 1 of 3 OEM's in the world who manufactured fluororcarbon........

 

I went back into my older Bass Magazines from 10 years ago and pros would be using 4 Rods, 2 with Braid, 1 with Mono, and 1 with Silver Thread......Then I noticed all Braid...Now, it is 6-10lb fluoro for finesse, 10-12lb general soft baits, 17-20 for heavy flipping or cover, 14 for suspending Jerkbaits, Heavy Braid for Frogs with a Mono leader since it Floats.....It is crazy to me, and John Crews said it best when he said that a braid with a 2.5-4lb diameter willl not only dig deeper than 15lb fluoro, Cast Further, Get a crank deeper, Harder for fish to see when light is out of equation for sure, but even in clear water since it is so thin, and they can't feel it.......

 

sorry for the Rant I guess, It was a tornedo here today so I did some research to try to get a grip on line selection, and I will stick with proven Braids, Copolymers, and Mono line, and will always use Camo line as a leader and mainline for all aplications except flipping and frogs, and for long casts when In need the Samurai 15lb 2.5 dia yellow which is so thin it is truly amazing for an 8 strand.

 

I recommend getting a large 1/4 spool from Tackle warehouse or whereever else it is sold as I am quite sure you will find it excels in all water colors and in finesse to topwater techiniques both day and night.....Great value and easy to handle....Now, I don't like how they market their RX copolymer as 15lb with 10lb diameter when it breaks at 14.....But Money matters

 

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Take visibility out of your thinking and it becomes a lot easier to find the right applications for each type of line as they each fish very differently. If the water's really really clear and the fish highly pressured it will make more difference fishing a finer line than a less visible one in my experience.

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#1 reason i fish fluoro is the slack line sensitivity is unmatched. I love fluoro. Sorry you dont. Each line has its place. There is no "one line to do it all perfectly".

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As others have said, I don't believe the no stretch or invisible claims. However, abrasion resistance and slack line sensitivity are why I use it. Fluoro density makes it ideal for feel applications. Furthermore, although Fluoro may not sink quickly, but it does sink and I prefer it for weightless plastics or wacky senkos because it adds a slow but steady descent vs an ultra slow sink you get with mono.

Lastly, I sure wish John Crews would openly state this when he is pushing viscous line. When their pro fluoro came out, he was lauding the invisibility and toughness of the line and how he uses it his crankbaits.

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Abrasion resistance and slack sensitivity. Forget the 'invisible' sales pitch

Tell ya what i used TF camo a lot on leader shy tarpon and snook for years...its good stuff. The abrasion resistance was top notch. I battled many tarpon for over 45 mins on 30 leaders and they didnt wear through it

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