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I am intrigued with the concept of the Cutting Point on their hooks. So much so that I am probably going to use them instead of Gammies when I can. My question is what is the difference between their Cutting Point and their Super Needle Point? Thank for your help!

  • Super User

The best explanation ever is this quote from Raul

Here's a little explanation on how the shape of the point can make a world of difference: in my daily practice I use sutures, sutures that come with needle, needles are different depending upon what you are going to stitch, we have needles for everything BUT skin and needles for skin. What's the difference, well, skin is anything but soft so the shape of the point is different.

Needles for everything have a CONICAL POINT, while needles for skin have CUTTING EDGE POINT, what's the difference? Try to drive a conical point needle through skin and it will penetrate if you use a lot of muscle, do the same with a cutting edge point needle and it's a piece of cake, you don't need to apply a lot of muscle to make the needle go through the skin, why ? Because while a conical point has to separate the tissue the cutting edge point SLICES through it.

Needles and hooks have the exact same application, to penetrate tissue, which one you think does a better job after the explanation, conical or cutting edge? Gammys are conical head hooks, owners Cutting edge are cutting edge hooks.  

So don't let your supposedly brand loyalty cloud your vision, in the pure aspect of function Gammys are sharp I'm not denying it but Owner's cutting edge hooks have superior hook penetration than Gammys hands down. And not only that, they cut through the toughest baits effortlessly.

  • Author

Thanks Catt. I understand why the Cutting Edge is so effective. That's why I will be using them when I can. Why does Owner have Cutting Edge and something called Super Needle Point? I figured all Owners hooks would be cutting edge. So do they actually have an ordinary needle point? and why?

  • Super User

Price man, cutting edge hooks cost almost twice as much as needle points. Creating the cutting edge takes more time and effort than just thining out and honing a conical point.

  • Author

OK, so that explains it. I was looking at using Owner hooks for my spinnerbaits and jigs instead of Gammies. Now I know to make sure I order the Cutting Edge ones. My next question is this, cutting edge does not give you more hookups, just makes it easier with setting the hook, right? I am thinking that any sharp hook is going to catch the inside of the mouth, but the owners will embed itself with less effort. Is that basically accurate?

  • Super User

That 's the principle, you can set the hook by two means: while a conical hook separates the tissue ( something that requires a great deal of force ) a cutting edge hook slices through the tissue like a razor ( the pressure is enough to drive the hook in ), not necessarily more hook ups but hook ups with less effort.

Be careful when you handle those hooks, you certainly don 't want them hooking your paw ( been there done that .... many times   ::) ).

You guys with cutting points must have wimpy hooksets.   :)

Kiding aside, cutting points makes hooksets easier.  They can also tear a larger hole that a needle point.

I have no hook brand preference.  I use the hook that best fits my bait.  Gammy, Owner, Mustad..they all have a problem - none of them make a complete line of hooks that fits all plastics.

Take EWG's or G-locks.  Thye have wide gaps, but sometimes  they are too long.  Owner's Riggin' hooks offer a short hook, but with a wide gap.   For some small tubes, the Owner Riggin' hooks fit better for me.

Brad

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