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Little help on new rod & reel

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So I've never really shopped around, in fact I don't remember where I got my existing setups.

Current setups:

6'6" Abu Garcia Harold Ensley Signature series Medium Heavy -   Pfleuger Templar 6.4:1 Baitcasting 

6'6" Abu Garcia UltraCast Medium - Abu Garcia 5.2:1 Spinning

I kayak fish and love fishing drop shot, Ned rig, and most finesse type techniques.

I tend to use my spinning rod more than the baitcast.  I usually tie on a spinnerbait or something to the baitcaster and use it when i am paddling down shorelines, when I get to a good spot I will anchor the kayak (if windy) and switch to spinning rod.

Although I have put the ned rig on the baitcaster with some success.

Anyway, I'm trying to decide if I really need a "drop-shot" specific rod, or if I should upgrade my baitcaster (I might actually like it better if I got a quality one - not sure of mine's qualilty)

If anyone can tell me:

Are my rods pretty decent?

What rod / reel would you recommend for me?

I would probably not want to spend over 300, I might go 350 if it's truly worth it..  I am also debating holding off for Black Friday sales but not sure if the deals are worth waiting for?

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I've never heard of those rods so I'm assuming that they are quite old. In that case you should really upgrade your stuff. I have some suggestions on a new rod and reel. Are you trying to upgrade all of your gear or just one set up for $300?

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I want to upgrade both setups and I'd be willing to spend 300-350 on each.

I saw a rod (no reel) for 500 bucks on TW.. That just blows me away lol

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Unfortunately that's what fishing has turned into... A huge hole in your pocket. For reels I would definitely look for a shimano citica 200e for your baitcasting set up. Try and search the market for those sometimes you can find them for around $80. And for a spinning reel I would go with a pflueger trion or a pflueger president (the trion is only $40), I have personally used both reels and think that they are for sure the best spinning reels for the price. As for rods this is where things get a bit pricey. For the rod though you should really go to a store and see what you like for around a $100 price range for both the casting and spinning. There are plenty of great rods around $100 that will fit your needs. If I was you i would look into a Abu Garcia Veritas, St. Croix Mojo Bass, or possibly a Duckett Ghost. There are also plenty of cheaper rods that are good that would work great it's up to you and what fits your needs because I have a hard time ordering a rod that I've ever felt. Hope that helps you make a decision.

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If you can wait for black friday, it's worth it, especially if you want to spend a few hundred. TW does a 20% off most items, and the ones that don't get discounted online you can usually call and get the discount.

 

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14 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

If you can wait for black friday, it's worth it, especially if you want to spend a few hundred. TW does a 20% off most items, and the ones that don't get discounted online you can usually call and get the discount.

 

I would say the same thing, but I have the problem of waiting. If I have the money for a new set up I get way to anxious. If you can wait though you can really stretch that dollar and save a lot of cash.

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8 minutes ago, apj said:

I would say the same thing, but I have the problem of waiting. If I have the money for a new set up I get way to anxious. If you can wait though you can really stretch that dollar and save a lot of cash.

I know exactly what you mean.

If I find I can't wait....well, someone's gonna mention it sooner or later, so it may as well be me:  Fisherman's Factory Outlet (FFO-tackle.com) has absolute smoking deals on random discontinued and reconditioned models of the Pure Fishing brands (Abu, Berkley, Fenwick, Pflueger, Shakespeare, Mitchell, Penn).

 

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5 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

I know exactly what you mean.

If I find I can't wait....well, someone's gonna mention it sooner or later, so it may as well be me:  Fisherman's Factory Outlet (FFO-tackle.com) has absolute smoking deals on random discontinued and reconditioned models of the Pure Fishing brands (Abu, Berkley, Fenwick, Pflueger, Shakespeare, Mitchell, Penn).

 

Sweet, thanks man!!!!

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19 minutes ago, apj said:

Sweet, thanks man!!!!

There's also American Legacy Fishing and Manventure Oupost, both of which have a lot of good stuff marked down that comes in and out of stock.

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2 hours ago, MIbassyaker said:

I know exactly what you mean.

If I find I can't wait....well, someone's gonna mention it sooner or later, so it may as well be me:  Fisherman's Factory Outlet (FFO-tackle.com) has absolute smoking deals on random discontinued and reconditioned models of the Pure Fishing brands (Abu, Berkley, Fenwick, Pflueger, Shakespeare, Mitchell, Penn).

 

For spinning FFO is offering the $180 Aetos for $89.  There are also a few nice spinning reels at very good prices.  Be careful because reel size may not be what you are looking for.  You missed out at the $95 price for Aestos casting rods from Fenwick's website.  I have zero experience with Cashion rods, but sure want to try a couple.  I like my Hammer rods.  I feel Fenwick gives you a lot of rod for the money.  I'd look at the HMG series and up.  I've read great things about the new Mojo blanks and the Fury and Sierra rods are also praised.  A trip to TW's website will be of benefit.  Not to your bank account, tho.  :rolleyes:

Casting:  See comments above for rods.  Walmart Online has the Pflueger Supreme XT RH 6.4:1 ratio for $121.64 with free shipping to a store near you, and the LH in 7.!:1 ratio for $128.43.  Pflueger baitcast reels are under-rated in my opinion.  Their spinning reels get high praise.  Jet has the Okuma Helios Air in 7.3:1 ratio for $144.86 or $140.90 if you pay by credit card and opt out of the free return option.  Plus get a 15% discount on your first 3 orders.  This is a $270 reel.  I was impressed from my very first cast with mine.  Another little known reel, the Pinnacle Primmus, quickly became a favorite of mine.  Lots of Lews lovers on here, but I'd put my Primmus up against any of them for distance and ease of use.  I own a Lews Tournament Pro, Tournament MB and Pro Z...a $300 reel...to compare with.  

You have tons of good options in the $300-$350 range per combo.  If you don't want to wait for a sale, used is a good place to start looking.  Many of my reels were purchased from various "For Sale" forums.  Many were in excellent to like new condition.  Rods often have dirty handles, but are in good to excellent shape otherwise.  I'd stay away from used Curado Es for the time being because of their inflated prices due to popularity.  Luckily I got mine at fair prices.  My first Curado 51E was $98 on closeout so you can see why I won't pay $165 and up.  :lol:  I have no problem paying $140 though for one in great shape.

Don't know if it is still there, but there was an original Daiwa Fuego in 8/10 condition (I think) for $95 on another site.  This was a $230 new and is under-rated by many.  I've got 3 and wouldn't sell any.  The used market offers many, many great options.  I've got a couple of the older blue Patriarch XTs that are not only beautiful reels, but very easy to use.  As a matter of fact one is set with one internal brake on and 3 on the external dial.  This is lower than any of my other reels.  The only reels I can use with lower brake settings are the MagForce 3D reels from Daiwa.  A used T3 1016 would be another excellent option.

Keep us posted on what you decide to buy.  And good luck.  I don't *** you narrowing the field to just one rod or reel.

EDIT:  The word removed from my post is a line from the banned company.....except my use of the word has nothing to do with that company.  I imagine the 4-letter word removed can be figured out in the context used.

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Thanks for all the great info!  I am looking around all the sites and offers that you guys have suggested.

Will let you know when I decide :o

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I used the harold ensley signature last year as my first casting setup, it worked really well, and I caught a lot of fish off jigs with it. Now I have 5 "new and improved" setups that I do like better:D

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For $60 a Pflueger president can not be beat for the quality and durability. For a rod look at several. First a St Croix Avid X  AXS68MXF. This is a top quality 6'8" spinning rod. It will handle lightly weighted ned rigs, senkos, drop shots,, texas rigs etc. It retails for $200.  Another great option is a Dobyns Sierra SA 692SF or 693SF depending on your preference.  I would use my spinning rod for these techniques. 

I would suggest you upgrade your baitcasting setup to throw spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, topwaters and jigs etc. For a baitcaster look at a Diawa Tatula CT. This is the newest version in the Tatula lineup. These are very good casting reels with a good smooth drag.  These reels run $130.  Here is a few nice options to match that reel up with. First, go to Irod rods and look at the Irod Genesis II series. There is a rod called IRG693C “Harold’s Lone Star Special”   These rods are lightweight, well balanced, very sensitive and are built with top notch components. They run $150 The same thing is true of the Dobyns and here I would suggest a Dobyns Sierra SA 683C. This rod sells for $160.

You will notice I suggested a bunch of rods that are less than 7 foot. I believe you will find it easier to fish with these rods instead of a 7 foot to 7'6" foot rods while fishing on a kayak.  If you were fishing from a boat I would still suggest these rods as they fish extremely well for your intended purpose. By the way, I fish with rods from all of these companies so I know they are solid equipment.  There are lots of other good choices, but if you are going to UPGRADE your equipment, step up to that $150 to $200 rod category. As for the Diawa reel it compares very well to other brand's $250 reels. Good luck hunting your next toys.

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