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Hey y’all. I live in Phoenix, AZ. Summer is on its way in and I have been fishing some lakes up north with cooler weather and some small urban lakes/ponds. It’s in the 90s and it’s a strong sun. The pond I go to isn’t deep 10 feet tops if that. It has these bubbling tubes that obviously bubble to keep oxygen level up. A couple friends caught fish around them. Some trees and shade cover and certain spots. But my question is. What would be the best bait/lure to throw in these conditions. Trying to pull in some decent fish. If you are familiar with the Chandler, AZ area let me know of some good urban fishing. But mainly Im just trying to figure out what to use. 
Thank y’all 

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Gavin, if the mods don't move your post to the Western Bass topic please repost in the Western Bass fishing section to get a good reply.

 

Welcome to the forum.

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I have been to Chandler but never fish. I was there in the summer, night fishing or early morning is the only times to fish in that heat. Buzzbait for shad and jig for crawfish, they come out at night. Again, never fish there but I live in 105 weather in the summer here in California. Hope that helps a bit 

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okay. i haven’t seen any crawfish in the ponds but i do know there are small baitfish swimming around. im going to try and go out at sunset tonight and get some better bites. even if there aren’t crawfish in the pond is it still a good bait to throw?

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18 hours ago, gavinfaulkner said:

okay. i haven’t seen any crawfish in the ponds but i do know there are small baitfish swimming around. im going to try and go out at sunset tonight and get some better bites. even if there aren’t crawfish in the pond is it still a good bait to throw?

yes, jigs can mimic crawfish, shad or any small creature. Bass will eat trout that have never seen a trout. I follow a guy that throws big swimbaits in AZ on Youtube. He is throwing 6-10 inch trouts and catching big bass in AZ. Crazybassfisher is his name on youtube. 

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On 4/30/2020 at 8:42 AM, Caliyak said:

yes, jigs can mimic crawfish, shad or any small creature. Bass will eat trout that have never seen a trout. I follow a guy that throws big swimbaits in AZ on Youtube. He is throwing 6-10 inch trouts and catching big bass in AZ. Crazybassfisher is his name on youtube. 

sounds like a plan. used a slip shot rig yesterday with a yamasenko on the end and brought in a decent bass. so y’all are really helping. thank you. now here’s a good question. it’s about in the 70 degree range up at my cabin. the lake we fish at has some vegetation and smallmouth and the other has largies and smallies what do i fish at this time of year in those situations? finesse? craw jig? swim bait?

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6 hours ago, gavinfaulkner said:

sounds like a plan. used a slip shot rig yesterday with a yamasenko on the end and brought in a decent bass. so y’all are really helping. thank you. now here’s a good question. it’s about in the 70 degree range up at my cabin. the lake we fish at has some vegetation and smallmouth and the other has largies and smallies what do i fish at this time of year in those situations? finesse? craw jig? swim bait?

finesse: drop shot, finesse jigs, small 3-4 inch swimbait on a jig head. If you have cover; trees, tullies, grass: then a texas rig worm or creature bait. I keep it simple, big fish love to eat, so we feed them. LOL 

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3 hours ago, Caliyak said:

finesse: drop shot, finesse jigs, small 3-4 inch swimbait on a jig head. If you have cover; trees, tullies, grass: then a texas rig worm or creature bait. I keep it simple, big fish love to eat, so we feed them. LOL 

lol i love that. the water is decently stained there. not too bad. what colors do you recommend. i have a chartreuse and white senko, baby bass senkos, i can roll with anything 

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What is the main forage in that lake..? Try to use colors that imitate that forage if possible.

I found that if you use a mosquito hook, and nose hook a 4" hologram shad roboworm with a split shot, and use a semi slow retrieve big bass will eat it. I throw this on a spinning rig with 6 or 8 lb mono. It;s worth a try..  

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3 hours ago, Hammer 4 said:

What is the main forage in that lake..? Try to use colors that imitate that forage if possible.

I found that if you use a mosquito hook, and nose hook a 4" hologram shad roboworm with a split shot, and use a semi slow retrieve big bass will eat it. I throw this on a spinning rig with 6 or 8 lb mono. It;s worth a try..  

there is some dead brush, logs, broken tree branches, and some dark green weeds. 

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8 minutes ago, gavinfaulkner said:

there is some dead brush, logs, broken tree branches, and some dark green weeds. 

I meant, what type of bait fish is in the lake..

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7 hours ago, Hammer 4 said:

I meant, what type of bait fish is in the lake..

ahh my bad. im almost positive it’s mostly threadfin shad. 

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O.k...Then I would try a super fluke in a white/pearl color. Bass could be moving to deeper water, although some could stay shallow. Try to imitate a dying shad, or fish it like a jerk bait.

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On 5/2/2020 at 1:48 PM, Hammer 4 said:

O.k...Then I would try a super fluke in a white/pearl color. Bass could be moving to deeper water, although some could stay shallow. Try to imitate a dying shad, or fish it like a jerk bait.

no bites this trip. wind was blowing hard and water was muddy. the trout fishing wasn’t going well either... 

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Chandler is SW of Phoenix as I recall, no lakes only a few ponds. Salt River lakes NE, Verde River lakes N. So you are fishing ponds with bluegill and crawdads. Unless you are fishing the big lakes forget swimbaits and think finesse or night fishing.

Tom

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Up at the cabin: 1.5 square bill your choice of color, trigged craw, senko trig or wacky, tube 3.5 in your choice of color, whopper plopped, pop r, buzz bait, spook, kvd 1.5 flatside, Berkeley dredge, dropshot roboworm or Yamamoto shad shaped worm. 
 

use the colors that suit your water conditions but for soft plastics outside of a dropshot normally green pumpkin of some sort is a good all around start.

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