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I have a rod (Daiwa Tatula Bass 6'10 MHF) with a broken guide that I decided to fix myself rather than have someone fix it. Mainly just to do it myself and learn how to do it in the future. I have a couple of questions if some of you guys can point me in the right direction.

1. What type of thread do you guys use for this?

2. How do I find out the size guide I need? Searched around on the Daiwa website and google and didn't see anything.

The tread come in sizes...I will typically use size "D" for a bass rod. Some people like to use an "A". (D is thicker)

 

The guide size is pretty much determined by measuring the diameter (metric). If it has a ceramic insert...them just measure the outside diameter of the guide.

 

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I have spoken with the techs at Mudhole Tackle and they will often know what kind of guides are used on higher end rods.  Lots of great rod repair vids on their site.  

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Try contacting Daiwa. There have been a few different versions of the Tatula series rods. I would be willing to bet that they all did not have the same guides. Daiwa may tell you what brand, size and model guide is used on your rod.

 

The way guide sizes are determined is one of the craziest ways to specify measurements I have ever seen. For example, if you measure a 6mm guide, neither the inside diameter or the outside diameter will be 6mm. 6mm is the outside diameter of the ceramic ring, and thus, the inside diameter of the frame.

 

I have no idea where this bit of stupidity comes from.

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Thanks for the help. I do know this rod has Fuji Fazlite guides on it. The info on the thread is a big help. I have some digital calipers I can use to measure the guide. Funny enough, the one that broke is the one I broke last year and had someone else replace it. He didn't use the exact guide for a replacement, it looked a bit different than the Fazlite guides that are on it. I'll measure that one and also the ones above/below the broken one and make an educated guess on the size. Or I'll contact Daiwa if I feel I need to.  

One thing you could do is measure the guides on both sides of the one that broke...and someone could give a pretty good guess as to what it should be.

A picture of the guide and another of a not broken guide can help find a match. Is it single foot? Double foot? Color of guide frame? 

Kind of hard to mistake a Fazite guide since the ceramic ring color is blue. You have something going on with how you treat, transport, or store that rod if you are taking out ring lock design guides, the next thing to go will be the blank, I'm surprised it isn't broken now.

I’m pretty sure it’s a K series guide based on little bit of research. No clue what size though. Still would need a photo and then buy 2-3 different sizes to try and match it. 

Buy one of the guides that are the same size as the next guide toward the tip, the size of the guide will make absolutely zero difference on that rod.

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I ended up just emailing Daiwa and got the correct size. Ordered it up and some size D thread. Made a little wood rod holding rig and fixed it in about 10 minutes. Worked out really well. And actually looks a lot better than I expected. It ended up being easier than I expected. But I did figure out I don't have any interest in building my own rods. Just replacing broken guides is good enough.

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The design of the NFC 7600 has been around from the late 70's/early 80's in the G Loomis line up, than as now as the modulus went up the tip stiffened also, the GL3 version is worlds better overall for it's intended purpose of having a soft tip that gives to the action of the plug as it swings side to side maximizing it's sway, I've never met a plug puller who disagrees you catch more fish with the softer tip. I also own a GLX version and a NFC HM, neither are the light lure rod the GL3 is.

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