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Hey all,

 I have several Berkeley Lightning Rods from years ago that I want to pass on to my son. The rod guides have fairly heavy grooving and I'm wanting to replace them but I'm not sure what my best option is. I have found that the rods come with aluminum guides and aluminum oxide inserts. I have read that the ceramic guides are a good option. About 95% of the time use either mono or flourocarbon. Very rarely use braid. Would I have any issues with switching to ceramic guide inserts? Any other insert material recommendations? Or do I need to stick with the aluminum oxide inserts that were in the guides originally? 

 

Thanks in advance! 

  • Super User

Aluminum oxide is ceramic.  They are one in the same when talking about guides.  

 

You can't just change the inserts on a guide, you have to replace the guide itself.  if you want to do it yourself, google rod guide wrapping and finishing.  It isn't hard and might be a good project for you and your son.  If you want to have someone else do them, you'll need to find a local rod repairman.  That said, the price to replace all of the guides will be cost more than buying new rods.  A normal rod will have ~7 guides.  You'll pay $10 for the guides and at least $5 a guide to wrap them.  That would be $50 once you factor in a tip top.  I seem to recall lightning rods selling for less than that.

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I found inserts on Amazon and ordered them. The guide inserts fit but the kit I ordered didn't have all the correct sizes for each guide (one insert was too big). They are ceramic, but I noticed they were a little thicker than the ones that I took out. The reviews stated to use industrial super glue to put the inserts in place. Yes, you're correct. I believe the new lightning rods are around $40.

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I wouldn't trust 'glued in' guide inserts...too much opportunity for failure.

 

But let us know how it works out.

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3 hours ago, River_Rat said:

I found inserts on Amazon and ordered them. The guide inserts fit but the kit I ordered didn't have all the correct sizes for each guide (one insert was too big). They are ceramic, but I noticed they were a little thicker than the ones that I took out. The reviews stated to use industrial super glue to put the inserts in place. Yes, you're correct. I believe the new lightning rods are around $40.


yeah, no. They are a pressed fit from the factory. I’d get your money back from Amazon. 

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