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What power to look for in a Jig Rod for ponds?

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Most of my jigs are 3/8oz football or arkie style jigs, add a trailer and probably around 5/8 or 1/2 I would guess. Although would like to experiment with finesse jigs and 1/4oz jigs soon.

 

15lb Fluoro, might jump to 17 if I have any issues with this.

 

I've been looking and asking around for a minute but can't seem to really find much of what is geared towards me, who is on the bank of a pond most of the time and bank of a lake if the conditions are good.

 

So far I'm between a Medium-Heavy or Heavy, but still indecisive because of lure weights on them. I've seen some heavy rods that started out lighter than Medium-Heavy; sometimes even at 3/16 oz all the way to 1 1/2oz. Wouldn't that let me cover a wider range? Or would it be too heavy for what I'm trying to do?

 

P.S- I know everyone has their preferences with knots, but what knots should I use with fluoro? I've always used palomar, but now using it as a mainline, I've sometimes noticed my knots won't fully sinch down and will take alot of pressure to do so?  Sorta sketches me out having a half sinched knot, but has put up to a few (small) bass.

I would lean medium heavy. As far as your knot for fluoro I I use San Diego jam and haven’t had any issues. But knots are a subject with no shortage of opinions. 

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Pick rod power based on hook gauge (thickness) and the lure weight. For what you described, I would lean towards selecting a medium heavy that fishes closer to a heavy. 

34 minutes ago, PTasker15 said:

I know everyone has their preferences with knots, but what knots should I use with fluoro? I've always used palomar, but now using it as a mainline, I've sometimes noticed my knots won't fully sinch down and will take alot of pressure to do so? 

This means your palomar is not tied correctly. Ensure that the lines never cross one another and cinch tag end first until you meet more pressure and the line is almost cinched down completely, then pull mainline and tag together. 

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I use the same jig rod for ponds, lakes, or rivers. Body of water got nuthin to do with it.

 

Diawa Tatula TTU711MHXB 

7'1" Medium Heavy X-Fast 

24 minutes ago, Catt said:

I use the same jig rod for ponds, lakes, or rivers. Body of water got nuthin to do with it.

 

Diawa Tatula TTU711MHXB 

7'1" Medium Heavy X-Fast 

 

Great rod. 

 

If you want slightly more backbone, the TTU711HFB (7'1" Heavy fast) is the big sister rod to the one mentioned above. I have two and they are my do-all jig rods. 

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2 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Pick rod power based on hook gauge (thickness) and the lure weight. For what you described, I would lean towards selecting a medium heavy that fishes closer to a heavy. 

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any retailer near me that sells rods in my price range + technique. I'm looking at the Lew's TP1X  7'2 Medium heavy (1/4-1) or the Lew's Mach 2 in the same range. How do I know If they fish closer to medium heavy?

2 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

 

This means your palomar is not tied correctly. Ensure that the lines never cross one another and cinch tag end first until you meet more pressure and the line is almost cinched down completely, then pull mainline and tag together. 

Thank you, I will try this.

2 hours ago, Catt said:

I use the same jig rod for ponds, lakes, or rivers. Body of water got nuthin to do with it.

 

Diawa Tatula TTU711MHXB 

7'1" Medium Heavy X-Fast 

As mentioned above. I want to stick with Lew's as its what I'm used to and those rods are in my price range. But, do you happen to know if the Daiwa Tatula XT is comparable to the regular tatula? Do you know how the stiffness, power of the rod compares to similar Lew's? Again I don't have stores near me that sell these so I can't test myself.

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Zero experience with the Tatula XT

 

I do however have 2 Lew's TP1 Black, one is TP1B70MH 7' Medium Heavy Fast. The TP1X 7' Medium Heavy Fast its rate 3/16-7/8 which is more than adequate for your intended use.

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2 hours ago, Catt said:

Zero experience with the Tatula XT

 

I do however have 2 Lew's TP1 Black, one is TP1B70MH 7' Medium Heavy Fast. The TP1X 7' Medium Heavy Fast its rate 3/16-7/8 which is more than adequate for your intended use.

The MHF you are talking about is a spinning rod sadly. Looking for casting.

 

They have a 7'2 MHF which is 1/4-1. Would that do it?

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Sorry fingers faster than the brain!

 

 

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You either want a stout MH F-XF or H F with a rating of 1/4-1oz or slightly more than 1oz.  Really the wire dia of the hook is what dictates the power of the rod.

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You will likely want a MH/F rod and 15 or 16lb fluorocarbon.

 

You can throw 1/4 finesse jigs on a M/F spinning rod with 8lb fluoro/mono or on a M/F casting rod with 10lb or 12lb fluoro.

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5 hours ago, Boomstick said:

You will likely want a MH/F rod and 15 or 16lb fluorocarbon.

 

You can throw 1/4 finesse jigs on a M/F spinning rod with 8lb fluoro/mono or on a M/F casting rod with 10lb or 12lb fluoro.

Would 8lb fluoro work on a spinning rod? I've heard bad things about memory above 6 lb test. If it does, I would love to jump from the lowly 6lb test to a bit more trustful 8.

 

Actually caught my PB yesterday on 6lb test. Talk about stressful when you got a torpedo shaped nearly 7lb bass hooked around a bunch of grass.

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On 7/5/2023 at 6:25 PM, PTasker15 said:

Would 8lb fluoro work on a spinning rod? I've heard bad things about memory above 6 lb test. If it does, I would love to jump from the lowly 6lb test to a bit more trustful 8.

Absolutely! A lot of it depends on the size reel you're using. A reel rated for 6, 8 and 10lb line usually works well with 6 and 8, but 10 is usually a bit iffy if it will actually handle well. If you have a reel rated for 4, 6 and 8 then 6 may be a safer choice. Usually a 2000 or 2500 size reel will work nice with 6 and 8.

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