@little giant - the only reason I could justify the SB - intended as an offshore jigging handle - was because I could swap-in the smaller fortissimo knob - I had a place for the 37-mm Livre knob that came from the SB on my low-geared jigging reel.  

3 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

@newapti5 in LP reels, 6- and even 7-geared, 90-mm is just right for me.  

But when you get to smaller spools and lower gears, you need shorter handles to have control of line pick-up so fish don't out-charge you - you spin a short handle with more wrist, crank a long handle with more forearm.  

 

With the 8-geared Super Duty, everything about jerkbait presentation improved with the Livre SB (55-mm pitch, equiv to 110-mm dia).  Could count the fish-rate improvement.  

 

I do agree on a slow jerkbait reel. My favorite jerkbait reel is a 5 gear ratio Daiwa SS SV. But with today's 8 speed reels, I honestly don't feel the need to wind super fast nowadays.

I’m in the minority but I like the i shape knobs. However the material is not the same quality as shimano. They get slick and knicked up way too easy 

@newapti5  I have a place for those fast reels.  

It's drift-fishing a kayak (with sock) in coast wind up to 20+ kts.  

Here, I just staked my boat to get out and land the redfish I hooked up - to keep him out of my drift sock rigging,

and to keep my boat from blowing across the flat if I lifted the drift sock.  

 

In lighter wind, a 7-geared reel is just right, and we fish a lot of calm sloughs, also.  

16 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

hmmm

IOS makes the part - a little red loctite, and SLP Works handle works on Stradic 

as far as using Shimano A  knob on Daiwa S spindle, it takes adding an extra bearing or a bearing-size bushing.  Shouldn't be news that these knobs interchange - all aftermarket knobs come with the plastic bushing ("collar") for Daiwa - leave it out for Shimano.  .  

   

That's it @bulldog1935. That step you showed in the image was what Tackle Advisors was referring to that was different between the two and needed to be addressed. I didn't know that some knob makers included a shim. 

@FrnkNsteen - where I've used common Daiwa-S/Shimano-A knob on Daiwa handle, I just throw in a third 740Z bearing and 0.2-mm shim washer.  

Since I mentioned IOS SD adapter shaft on first post, IOS also makes hex-shaft adapter that lets you use fixed Daiwa handles on hex-shaft reels.  

 

@Bigbox99 the bushings and the bearings are the same size.  They should never need thinning - just adjust the stack height with shim washers, which come in 0.5-mm and 0.2-mm thickness

from bottom for Daiwa:  shim; bushing (or bearing); shim; bearing; enough shims to dial out knob end-play.  

for Shimano, leave out the first bearing or bushing and 2nd shim.  

Also with a Daiwa SLPW knob, leave out the first bearing or bushing and 2nd shim.  

 

You can also repurpose the Daiwa plastic knob bushing as a spacer if needed.  If it's too tall a bit of back and forth on some sand paper can fix that.  I've done that before.

I just picked up a bantam complete handle to use the knobs. When my Shimano knobs are tightened down the screw stops and the knobs still spin freely. When I put the Shimano knobs on my zillion and I tighten the screw down the knobs won't spin. I have to back the screw off for them to spin without resistance, but then the screw is not tight. Am I doing something wrong? Is this where the shims come in? Not really seeing how that would help. Where can I purchase these shims if that is what I need to do?

7 hours ago, Grantpa said:

Is this where the shims come in?

Yes.  You will need to put one plastic bushing and one bearing at the bottom of the Daiwa handle when fitting Shimano knobs.  Shimanos handles have a taller base for the knobs and you will need to duplicate this on the Daiwa handle to accept the Shimano knob.  Instead of a plastic bushing  at the bottom and one bearing at the the top of the Daiwa knob on a Daiwa handle use one plastic bushing and one bearing at the bottom of the Shimano knob and one bearing on top.  With a complete Bantam handle assembly you should have all the extra bearings and parts plus extra to make it work.

Thanks so much for the reply. I figured it out this evening before seeing this and it's perfect! So much better than before and the knobs even spin more freely than the Daiwa knobs. It's so perfect now. Thanks for creating this thread.