I bought 2 BPS Extreme combos with the 6'6 MH rods.  I noticed the action/power or whatever is waaay slower than it ought to be IMO. I couldn't pull hard enought to bring up a nice bass out of heavy timber yesterday, even with 15# Big Game mono. The rod bent from the tip to the butt in a classic parabolic bend. Anyone else disappointed with the action/usability of these models? I guess they're the newest models (black). Guess I'll have to go back to my hvy action Diawa L/T's with 15# P-Line CX premium in gin clear water and hope for the best. Braid is outta the question due to clear water as well, concerning line to use. Any suggestions to keep them basses from whipping me to death?? ///SWIFF

Couldn't be happier with my BPS Extreme rods. I have the 7' M Woo Daves and 7' MH. These are the green rods. Plenty of action/power for me with the Medium rod, I have been using Zoom flukes and other plastics with much success. Been putting quite a few fish in the boat with both rods! The MH is being used for jigs right now, works killer. Plenty of backbone and sensitivity. I just bought them 3 weeks ago. I'm not sure what you mean by the "black" ones. All the BPS Extremes I have seen are green....

PS, welcome to Bass Resource. This will probably get moved to the proper forum "Rods, Reels, Lines etc"

The newer models are green.  I have several 7'MH and haven't had any of the problems you describe.  They are on-sale right now at $64.94.  Wish I could justify buying another one or two.

Kelley

Near the base of the rod there should be a lable indicating the Power/ Action. This should read MH/F or XF. The "action" you describe is "slow".  A Fast Action rod should bend at about 25-30% from the tip. Fast Action is what you need for soft plastics and jigs. Moderate or Slow action is what most fishermen want in a rod fishing treble hooks (crankbaits for example).

What you have are not XPS "Extreme" rods, but XPS "Extreme Performance" rods. These rods are IM8 and are much softer (or I should say "slower") then the IM8 Bionic Blades. I purchased the same rod for spinnerbaits and didn't like it because even though it said "MH" power, it felt softer to me. I converted it to my jerkbait rod and I couldn't imagine a better jerkbait rod. The power of the rod seems to be somewhere in-between a Medium and Medium Heavy with a relatively slow action. If I were you, I would convert these rods into a jerkbait and crankbait rod and then buy two Bionic Blades or actual XPS "Extreme" rods for the application you are looking for. Though, if you are wanting to get rid of them, PM me, because I was in the market for 2 of those "Extreme Performance" rods, but Bass Pro doesn't sell them independently, only in combos.

Well, Matt 5.0, I am on the "rods, reels, & line forum, at least on my PC web page, and Yep- I ended up with the "Extreme Performance" series, and Yep, they're BLACK.  Too many variations @ BPS to weed thru cause I only saw "EXTREME" on sale and went for it what with the bait monkey and all.  Crucials will have to suffice for other apps such as cranking, lipless and S/B's--LOL. Like the reels well enough, but may go back to my shimano reels. Buyer beware I guess....SWIFF

what reel did it come with and how much was it?

Well, Matt 5.0, I am on the "rods, reels, & line forum, at least on my PC web page, and Yep- I ended up with the "Extreme Performance" series, and Yep, they're BLACK. Too many variations @ BPS to weed thru cause I only saw "EXTREME" on sale and went for it what with the bait monkey and all. Crucials will have to suffice for other apps such as cranking, lipless and S/B's--LOL. Like the reels well enough, but may go back to my shimano reels. Buyer beware I guess....SWIFF

Looks like Glenn moved it to the proper section. Again, welcome to the best Bass fishing forum on the web.  

It came with the ETX10HC (last yrs model) Price was ~$70~ and I knew that it was the old model reel, but didn't know about the other model rods being different entirely. my mistake.  After considerable rumination, I may try one out with my S/B reel and see if its got guts enuff fer dat. Otherwise, back to the bait monkey straight jacket, cause I got too much stuff as it is.  Running outta room.  ...SWIFF

Swiff,

That BPS extreme combo was very deceiving in how it was marketed. Here's a thread on the topic from last month:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1176256806

And you weren't the only one who was fooled. Here's another thread:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1176227901/6#6

Welcome to the boards!

Dan

Boys, I know I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, but when it comes to my tackle, I usually research,disect, check/recheck, discuss it ad nauseum on the board for advice, welll you get the picture.

That said, the customer service satisfaction I have had with BPS for many, many yrs allows me to re-iterate---my mistake! Even with the less than stellar rod I expected, I'll take my lumps as a lesson and start watching for the minutia that more and more retailers add in their marketing practices.  It's a dog eat dog deal in retailing, and Johnny Morris has given me a spanking, but my mistake. LOL... Heck, I gots 'bout 30 different rod/reel outfits laying round so I ain't hurting over this, I will adapt to it.  Thanks for all the feed back cause I wuz thinking I'd got so decrepit that I just couldn't PULL hard nuff! ..SWIFF