We all know how sensitve kistlers are and how light they are.

But since I've only fished with them once. Are the kistlers really reliable? I plan to purchase the Magnesium Jig N' Toad rod for flipping/pitching my jigs, worms, and craws around laydowns, docks, etc.

If at any chance I hooked a good one say 4lb+ fish, knowing me I'll probably boat flip it more then I will to used a net. I boat flip 90% of my jigs and texas rig fish. Will kistler snap if I boat flip these size fish?

I know kistler are very light, but I wonder since it light it had to be built with less material I wonder about brittleness of the rod.

Thanks for reading and answerin my question.

I'll probably end up buying magneisum Jig N toad rod and rig it up with either shimano citica or Revo S.

You just opened a can of worms.. .but Kistler are pretty tuff, I just broke ajig n toad rod but it was two years old and I broke it on hookset but I set way to hard sometimes. I sent it back and got a brand new one a few days later.  I love all of my kistlers but I am sure some people on here are about to run them down.

For those of you that want to shout at me about saying gloomis is better then kistler or whatever keep the comments to your self. All I ask is how brittle kistler are, I dont care about loomis, or st. croix or whatever.

I know in some other forums everytime Kistler or loomis comes up people make 50 pages about it. I just want a simple basic answer how brittle kistler can be. Weather it still a durable rod or not.

All the Kistlers I own have been pretty tough. I use all Heliums. I dont make it a habit to "flip" 4 pounders in the boat, but it HAS happened. I probably wouldnt try flipping a 4 pounder with anything less than a MH though......with ANY BRAND rod.

If at any chance I hooked a good one say 4lb+ fish, knowing me I'll probably boat flip it more then I will to used a net. I boat flip 90% of my jigs and texas rig fish. Will kistler snap if I boat flip these size fish?

I know kistler are very light, but I wonder since it light it had to be built with less material I wonder about brittleness of the rod.

Regardless of how light or how tough a graphite rod is... making a habit of airborning 4lb fish is a broken rod waiting to happen... no matter the brand. (the exception being an XH, maybe) Not to mention that the landing is hard on the fish.

Kistler is no more brittle than whatever you are using right now.

We all know how sensitve kistlers are and how light they are.

No, we don't.... no one has been willing to weigh the kistlers vs. other like models on the same scale. Been down that road a few times already in PM's and out of courtesy, I never posted the results. The argument is always the same... "kistler is as light as GLX..." and then no one will post actual weights on the forum....... why? because they are not lighter... they just have a longer handle and balance a shade better. Lengthen a handle on an ugly stick and it will balance out nicely. > I'm so tired of the BS.

I'll probably end up buying magneisum Jig N toad rod

It will serve you well. (but just don't expect it to be GLX)

Sorry kw, it's past debates that bring up this hostility, nothing in your post.

I have an LTA ML 6.6 paired with Alpha F, I use it for small cranks and jerks. I have no complain, my best fish on it was a 3 1/2 lbs that a lipped without problems.

It is a great rod for what I use it and I love the handle.

If at any chance I hooked a good one say 4lb+ fish, knowing me I'll probably boat flip it more then I will to used a net. I boat flip 90% of my jigs and texas rig fish. Will kistler snap if I boat flip these size fish?

I know kistler are very light, but I wonder since it light it had to be built with less material I wonder about brittleness of the rod.

Regardless of how light or how tough a graphite rod is... making a habit of airborning 4lb fish is a broken rod waiting to happen... no matter the brand.  (the exception being an XH, maybe)  Not to mention that the landing is hard on the fish.

Kistler is no more brittle than whatever you are using right now.  

We all know how sensitve kistlers are and how light they are.  

No, we don't.... no one has been willing to weigh the kistlers vs. other like models on the same scale.  Been down that road a few times already in PM's and out of courtesy, I never posted the results.  The argument is always the same... "kistler is as light as GLX..."  and then no one will post actual weights on the forum....... why?  because they are not lighter... they just have a longer handle and balance a shade better.   Lengthen a handle on an ugly stick and it will balance out nicely.   >  I'm so tired of the BS.

I'll probably end up buying magneisum Jig N toad rod

It will serve you well.  (but just don't expect it to be GLX)

Sorry kw, it's past debates that bring up this hostility, nothing in your post.

You have it backwards...the Kistlers are indeed a little lighter, but don't balance as well so the loomis actually feels lighter (hence the tip-heavy feel).

Per Tackle tour:

Kistler:  6-6 Medium-Heavy   3.5ozs   balance point +8.5" from the reel seat

Loomis: 6-6 Medium-Heavy   4.1ozs   balance point +6.25" from the reel seat

The Loomis have 2 more guides versus the Kistler, and a foregrip, so blank weight is probably the same.  Just clearing that up...

Natural, can you post the link to the TT page you are referring to... last time I saw a TT review with weights posted the rods were not like models, thus furthering this very argument.  I would like to see exactly which rods were compared...  so I can either eat some public crow or satisfy my own suspicions.

Thanks,

keith

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewkistlermg.html

Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, just share information.  How light a rod feels is directly related to how well it balances.  Tackle Tour always uses the mbr783c glx as a benchmark, and I haven't read where a rod balances better, other than a Megabass.  I bet the GLX is the lightest blank out there...as said the Kistler doesn't have a foregrip and has less guides, so it isn't apples to apples.  

Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, just share information.

I know.

Consider this my dinner sized portion of crow, eaten in public.  ...lol

I don't think the numbers look right for either rod but since I don't have either of those models here to weigh out and prove, (right or wrong) I'll have to stick my foot in my mouth and call no joy.

Not only is the kistler over a half an ounce lighter but it is also little stronger than the glx in the line slap test, and also they are testing kistlers magnesium line which is the middle of the road kistler vs. the glx loomis which is the top of the line Kistler helium II ltx weighs just a hair over 3 ounces that is a full ounce lighter than the glx.  Just thougt I would point this out.