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  I weighed my other rods too, and will start another thread (on rod senstivity), and see if others will add their rod weights too. I'm really curious what other rods weigh.

Oh yes, this was done on a postal scale, which I'm going to have to check calibration on. Will follow up tomorrow -again ::) .

It would be an interesting thread. Not sure how well some postal scales resolve under an ounce though so you could have some variance in reports depending on the type and quality of the folks scales. I weigh on an (ammunition) handloading scale - reads to .01 gram (.01 gram = 0.0003527396 ounce). I have calibration weight sets so I can verify the calibration of the scale. Perhaps some of the folks are also handloaders and have access to similar scales.

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I don't reload, and the postal scale is really only good for comparisons on that scale. I actually don't have accurate calibration weights either, so until I come up with something I guess the weights offered are as good as I'm going to have for now.

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Who can feel .1oz plus or minus anyway :) Regardless of the EXACT weight, you could put something like the new BPS Carbonlite reel on your casting rod and still be under 12 oz spooled up with line - not bad at all!

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Just following up on the Carbonlite's.

I was at BPS today looking to exchange the 6-6M trigger I have with a 7MH, but found the MHs to be a tad cumbersome. Good rod -maybe best in its price point. A guy looking at them too mentioned the guides. I said, "The tip-top would be the issue, and fixing that is just a flick of a Bic."

At RoLo's suggestion I looked at the Johnny Morris rods and found them lighter than the CL. My response to the CL was, "Well, I'd fish with it." The JM, I said, "Whoa. Now that's more like it."

I ended up finding a Browning Midas (85mil PSI) marked down from $170 to 95. Never would have thought to look at them but a nice young salesman showed it to me -he too was coveting it. Have to say, a very nice rod! Akin or maybe nicer than the JM. Concept spaced SIC's too.

I really liked the CL in M action. The fact that they appear to have had to build them up a bit to get to MH at 7ft, tells me they are not quite comparable to the JM, or apparently, the Browning Midas.

Disclaimer: This is my "in the store" assessment. Would have loved to put 'em all on a scale. In the CLs favor it did feel a tad stronger in action than the JM and Midas. Tough to judge really though.

On my postal scale at home the 6-10 MH Midas weighed in at 4.9oz.

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Just following up on the Carbonlite's.

I was at BPS today looking to exchange the 6-6M trigger I have with a 7MH, but found the MHs to be a tad cumbersome. Good rod -maybe best in its price point. A guy looking at them too mentioned the guides. I said, "The tip-top would be the issue, and fixing that is just a flick of a Bic."

At RoLo's suggestion I looked at the Johnny Morris rods and found them lighter than the CL. My response to the CL was, "Well, I'd fish with it." The JM, I said, "Whoa. Now that's more like it."

I ended up finding a Browning Midas (85mil PSI) marked down from $170 to 95. Never would have thought to look at them but a nice young salesman showed it to me -he too was coveting it. Have to say, a very nice rod! Akin or maybe nicer than the JM. Concept spaced SIC's too.

I really liked the CL in M action. The fact that they appear to have had to build them up a bit to get to MH at 7ft, tells me they are not quite comparable to the JM, or apparently, the Browning Midas.

Disclaimer: This is my "in the store" assessment. Would have loved to put 'em all on a scale. In the CLs favor it did feel a tad stronger in action than the JM and Midas. Tough to judge really though.

On my postal scale at home the 6-10 MH Midas weighed in at 4.9oz.

Pretty light. The only 7' MH that I have is a BPS Bionic Blade and it weighs 170 grams = 6.0oz.

Anyway, the Carbonlites are indeed light and were temporarily at a great price - but at their full retail price I think there is quite a bit of competition...

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At their full price, I think the CLs are better than the Mojo, Vedettta (sharp-looking though) and some others I've looked at.

For another comparison, I have a new Series One I bought on clearance a couple months ago. It's a 6-6MH casting but is pushing into the H range IMO -rated to 1-1/2oz. It weighs 5.4oz -this with those stainless guides. It's heavily built up so it appears to be made for durability. It's a perfectly fish-able rod, but I can't help but see it as a 'glorified LightningRod'.

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I weighed my other rods too, and will start another thread (on rod senstivity), and see if others will add their rod weights too. I'm really curious what other rods weigh.

Oh yes, this was done on a postal scale, which I'm going to have to check calibration on. Will follow up tomorrow -again ::) .

It would be an interesting thread. Not sure how well some postal scales resolve under an ounce though so you could have some variance in reports depending on the type and quality of the folks scales. I weigh on an (ammunition) handloading scale - reads to .01 gram (.01 gram = 0.0003527396 ounce). I have calibration weight sets so I can verify the calibration of the scale. Perhaps some of the folks are also handloaders and have access to similar scales.

Haven't seen any new thread started for rod weights yet, but you know I keep that type info handy :) A mix of many 'old skool' rods thrown in:

Avid 3S60MLF (custom) 3.04 ounces

St. Croix AS66MHF 4.00

Loomis IMX MBR783C 4.32

St. Croix PS66MLF 4.32

St. Croix PS66MF 4.32

Loomis SBR812 6'9" 4.80

6'10" Allstar SJ2  5.12

Galyan's BGN 2212N 6'6" MH 5.28

Galyan's BGN 2212N 7'0" MH 5.44

G. Roach Lightning LPC610M 5.76

Brauer TD Flipping 7'6" 6.24

Galyan's 6'6" MH ("balanced") 6.56

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Thanks, Brian.

After I dig myself out of some work I'll do it. Maybe others will join in.

I got to hold the carbonlite yesterday and it's a lot nicer in person. I imagined those grips to be uncomfortable but felt rather nice in my hand. I also held that new Rick Clunn rod and it was a little heavy and that grip is weird but it seems to have a great balance point. Maybe it was just the one I picked up but it felt pretty good in my hands.

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I thought the Carbonlite didn't look so great in the catalog. But I like them in hand -and I tend to like the high tech split-grip look.

I bought one of the ML spinning rods last week when they were on sale for $80.  I took it out fishing yesterday and like the way it fishes.  I'm not crazy about the reel seat though.  I think for me, I'll need to get something to fill out the top of the reel seat.  But otherwise, seems like a pretty good little rod for shakey head and dropshotting.

I wonder how these would compare to Kistlers carbonsteel series of blanks. They use the pac bay reel seats and guides as well.

I have a vested interest in this subject as I am about to upgrade my rods this season from the berkley lightnings and am taking a close look at the BPS CL, Abu Vandetta, Mojo bass, and the Kistler CarbonSteel.

Are there any others in the ~$100 range I should also take a close look at?

I wonder how these would compare to Kistlers carbonsteel series of blanks. They use the pac bay reel seats and guides as well.

I have a vested interest in this subject as I am about to upgrade my rods this season from the berkley lightnings and am taking a close look at the BPS CL, Abu Vandetta, Mojo bass, and the Kistler CarbonSteel.

Are there any others in the ~$100 range I should also take a close look at?

The Kistler carbonsteel rods are nice looking rods and for $109 it looks like a good deal.  I like the combination cork/foam grip.

I wonder how these would compare to Kistlers carbonsteel series of blanks. They use the pac bay reel seats and guides as well.

I have a vested interest in this subject as I am about to upgrade my rods this season from the berkley lightnings and am taking a close look at the BPS CL, Abu Vandetta, Mojo bass, and the Kistler CarbonSteel.

Are there any others in the ~$100 range I should also take a close look at?

Falcon Bucoo and Shimano Compre.

Picked up a 7' MH Crucial from Gander $75 regular 150. I have recently purchased 2 IMX and this  feels as good with out a reel on it. My first outing coming here soon so I'll see what they all are about. GANDER has a heckuva sale in Sherman, Tx. I popped in just to see about a spinning reel. They had several brands on sale  50% off. I ended up getting 2 a President & Supreme 1/2 $$$$$$$ instead of getting one Stratic.

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