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;D here's the description of the new carbonlite rods at bass pro shops:

You're going to hear a lot about CarbonLite as it far exceeds current technology in rod design. Performance-wise, it's all about revolutionary materialsa total re-thinking of what goes into making the strongest, lightest, most incredibly sensitive rod ever devised. A CarbonLite rod is a thing of beauty, built on an ultra-rich carbon-fiber blank that compares favorably to 85 million modulus (IM9) graphite. Sleek, smooth carbon fiber transmits vibrations instantly and weighs much less than standard materials, yet has hookset power to spare. The guides are special: feather-light, stealth-black, Pacific Bay® DLC stainless steel frames with titanium-carbide inserts and a PVD (physical vapor deposition) coating to make them extra-slick and damage-resistant. Split handles with P-Tec poly-foam grips (and virtually no foregrip) keep weight low and blank contact high; our two-piece Soft Touch reel seat is light, comfortable, and bridgeless, exposing significantly more blank area to direct hand contact. All in all, you'll love the feel and handling of this revolutionary rod, guaranteed. And with every model available for far less than high-end rodsyou'll love the price too!

the first line cracks me up. the only possible explanation for this rod being able to exceed current technology is that they went forward in time and brought the technology back to 2009...wow, just think: for $90, you can fish with a rod from the future! LOL

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Sounds like it could be another option for a great rod for those not wanting to spend a ton of money.

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Maybe they should have said "You're going to hear a lot about CarbonLite as it far exceeds OUR current technology in rod design."  I would believe that statement.  But IMO it looks like it might be a nice rod for the price.  Definitely LOOKS neat but we all know looks can be deceiving.  If I were to seen it on the racks I definitely would at least pick it up

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Once the rod gets out on the market and people use them for a while we'll know if they are worth the hype.

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They look good for the price, a lot of competition as of late at that price point so they may be somewhat decent.

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I think I'm in the minority on this one....

After buying into the whole split grip, no front grip "look" last winter.......

I'm sick of the no front/split grip look. Everyone is trying to look the same, and it's already old IMO. You should be able to build a light rod and KEEP a real handle.

The new swept handle trend in reels I really like though.

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I think I'm in the minority on this one....

After buying into the whole split grip, no front grip "look" last winter.......

I'm sick of the no front/split grip look. Everyone is trying to look the same, and it's already old IMO. You should be able to build a light rod and KEEP a real handle.

The new swept handle trend in reels I really like though.

There is more to it than weight reduction. The fact is, the more exposed blank you have, the better the rod will transmit vibration. That means a no front/split grip handled  rod will be more sensitive than a traditional handled rod.

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a no front/split grip handled rod will be more sensitive than a traditional handled rod.

Keep drinking that kool-aid

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Actually I would tend to agree with that previous statement about the sensitivity being higher due to less dampening material. But I think we're talking about an increase that's almost completely undetectable to most people.

I personally don't buy into the whole split grip/less weight/more sensitive thing.  I like the way they look but I don't believe it makes any difference in perceivable sensitivity at all.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

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Said this in another thread, but I fished with one of these a few months ago when it was in the prototype/testing phase.  I was very impressed.  If the production rods are as nice I'll be getting a couple.

When it comes to far exceeding current technology, I'm guessing the engineer(s) were some advanced life form using their intergalactic spacecraft design degree to advance the sport of fishing :)

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How good are these rods compared to the Shimano Cumara Rods?

You can't really compare a 100 dollar rod to a 200 dollar rod.

They do look pretty sweet though.

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How good are these rods compared to the Shimano Cumara Rods?

It's hard to compare two differant rods in totally differant price ranges.

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I think I'm in the minority on this one....

After buying into the whole split grip, no front grip "look" last winter.......

I'm sick of the no front/split grip look. Everyone is trying to look the same, and it's already old IMO. You should be able to build a light rod and KEEP a real handle.

The new swept handle trend in reels I really like though.

I'm with you on a real cork handle, very comfortable for my hands and my Loomis rods are still very light and sensitive.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

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There was a Carbon Lite baitcaster on their site a couple of days ago but now it's gone.

And, they had Carbonlite rod/reel combos listed as well. I got a $20 off on an order over $100 coupon from BPS and was just about to order one of the combos as my Christmas present to myself but by then both the combos and reels disappeared from their web site. Drats - between the combo price and the coupon I would have come in about $60 under the individual list prices. The reels were initially listed as "limited stock" and they probably sold out in the first day so they took the combos off as well...

Now, will probably have to wait until the annual Spring sale to get an equivalent deal.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

If it's so great, why do you want to sell it?

Just a thought.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

If it's so great, why do you want to sell it?

Just a thought.

Because I got a good deal on a rod whose length matched what I wanted better. And I already had one of the same brand. Selling this one would enable me to buy another of the same brand, to help build an arsenal with the same feel......By being the same brand.

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I'm sorry but i don't think it can match the Bucoo's in balance and lightness.... I have yet to find a stick for a 100 bucks that comes anywhere close... now if you jumped up 50$ in then yeah better stuff... but if you have ever fished a Bucoo you would be saying the same thing.... I like BPS rods when they are on sale there great rods for 40- 50 bucks... but why would you buy a BPS rod over 100$ when there are so many more options in the high end rod market....????

Ever fish with a J/M Elite? At full retail you can't find more rod per $$ even at $200.

UH I think if i was going to spend 200 on a rod i would buy a Shimano Cumara way before i ever thought about a jm elite... sic guides lifetime warranty, and super hard to beat at any price point... no if the jm elite went on sale for like 100 bucks i would think about it...

So you have not fished with one I take it?

If it's so great, why do you want to sell it?

Just a thought.

Because I got a good deal on a rod whose length matched what I wanted better. And I already had one of the same brand. Selling this one would enable me to buy another of the same brand, to help build an arsenal with the same feel......By being the same brand.

Gotcha. I'm doing that with Compre's :)

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I think I'm in the minority on this one....

After buying into the whole split grip, no front grip "look" last winter.......

I'm sick of the no front/split grip look. Everyone is trying to look the same, and it's already old IMO. You should be able to build a light rod and KEEP a real handle.

The new swept handle trend in reels I really like though.

There is more to it than weight reduction. The fact is, the more exposed blank you have, the better the rod will transmit vibration. That means a no front/split grip handled rod will be more sensitive than a traditional handled rod.

what a bunch of hooey!!!a good portugese cork handle with the blank through has just as good feel.split grips reduce butt weight there for causing the rod to be more tip heavy.

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