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Went out tonight throwing a spook.  What fun.  No issues with the Hybrid on that.  I'm still not sold on using it as line for my t-rig/worm rod.  I've caught a few fish using a t-rigged worm and never even felt the strike.  Just had some added tension.  Now that could be because the way the fish were taking the bait, etc etc.  I'm itching to put the braid back on, but I'm still going to give Hybrid a fair chance.

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Went out tonight throwing a spook. What fun. No issues with the Hybrid on that. I'm still not sold on using it as line for my t-rig/worm rod. I've caught a few fish using a t-rigged worm and never even felt the strike. Just had some added tension. Now that could be because the way the fish were taking the bait, etc etc. I'm itching to put the braid back on, but I'm still going to give Hybrid a fair chance.

Thanks Eric - keep up the reports ! I have only used Yo-Zuri on my deep-cranking rod - some 10lb that I snagged out of the bargain bin at Gander Mountain last year. After our earlier posts, I found that I had some of that 10lb left - perhaps as much as 70-80 yards - enough (with some backing) to fill the reel on my worm rod. So, it looks like I might be giving it a try-out as well. Gonna be at or below freezing here for a few days but maybe next week I can get it in the water.

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Even if you had to buy a new spool, it's worth it to try it out just based on the price.

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Went out tonight throwing a spook. What fun. No issues with the Hybrid on that. I'm still not sold on using it as line for my t-rig/worm rod. I've caught a few fish using a t-rigged worm and never even felt the strike. Just had some added tension. Now that could be because the way the fish were taking the bait, etc etc. I'm itching to put the braid back on, but I'm still going to give Hybrid a fair chance.

I would have to say it's possible the way the bass are taking the bait. Very few times have I not felt a bite on any of the Yozuri line. Maybe it's a case that your so use to braid..? Could it be your line has to much slack..?

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I'll stand by it still being me so used to braid.  After using it only for...I guess the entire year, that would make sense.  There may well have been slack as well, it's been fairly windy here lately, so I'm sure that the boat getting blown around a bit more than I'd like has left a little slack in my line.

Out of curiosity, do you guys like using Yo-zuri for jigs as well?  Haven't had a chance to really test that out yet.

I'll stand by it still being me so used to braid. After using it only for...I guess the entire year, that would make sense. There may well have been slack as well, it's been fairly windy here lately, so I'm sure that the boat getting blown around a bit more than I'd like has left a little slack in my line.

Out of curiosity, do you guys like using Yo-zuri for jigs as well? Haven't had a chance to really test that out yet.

I still use straight braid for jigs. I see no reason to switch really. I like the sensitivity and the strength for jig fishing.

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I've used the 15lb Yozuri for jigs, but I have to say, that I prefer braid, for the sensitivity, and strength factor. When I did use the yozuri, I kept my finger on the line to detect bites.

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Hrmm choices...   I've gotta decide.  Since I primarily only use five rods on a trip (boat space); each has to serve more than one purpose.

#1  Flipping/Frog

#2  Texas rig/Jig

#3  Swimbait/Flipping

#4  Cranking

#5  Spinning

Have 12# Hybrid on rod #3 and that certainly isn't coming off.  I've been very happy with it on there.  It's rod #2 right now that I've got the problem with.  Braid with a leader may end up being the best choice for that rod in the long run.  At least I'll have plenty of leader material to use if I do swap it back over....

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You use 12# for swimbaits..? They must be under  6" ... :)

As for the t rig set up..use what your most comfy with.  ;)

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They are ;)

I'm not hurling anything big. Mostly paddletails and a few smaller hard swimbaits.  Eventually when I buy a rod capable of throwing larger baits I'll be using 20-30 probably.

    There seems to be alot of lost sensitivity in this thread, or a dependency on braid to be able to feel a bite. I dont quite understand not being able to feel a bite easily on mono. I use alot of Berkley Big Game and have no issues, even at 45 to 50ft deep.

  Several things come to mind as to why, well perhaps. The first and a major is concentration. I have fished with many people who just are not one with their rod. You need to be a line watcher when fishing.

   The other thing Ive seen people do is not matching the rod and line for the technique. I personally like my line in the middle or lower end of the rod rating. If it says 10-17lb test, I would use 10 or12lb test. The weight of the bait can also make a difference, but its not the biggest thing.  A senko on a spinning rod with 8lb test is very sensitive, and a better choice since braid wants to float. Of course if Im throwing into heavy cover I will use 20lb fluorocarbon on a baitcaster, 7-8ft mh.

    I change my line alot when using Big Game, its inexpensive, and its always a good idea to keep fresh line on the reel. Fluorocarbon I will use a bit longer, but I will often cut off 10ft when I retie.

    To each their own, but braid and rocks can spell disaster. I do use braid the majority of time when punching and throwing frogs, neither are for sensitivity reasons. I dont know about other parts of the country, but around here in California, if I fished braid on my spinning reels Id get destroyed in tournaments. The fish just dont bite it as well in clear to slightly stained water.

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Just a friendly update:

Ended up putting 15# Hybrid on my paddletail rod as well. I use that rod for pitching into light/moderate cover also. I've been very happy with this setup so far. Makes a mean Senko tossing setup.

I'm still undecided on the 12# for my t-rig rod. Sensitivity isn't an issue as I've gotten much more used to it over the month. I still need to get better hooksets with this line though. Probably a bit more rod speed when I swing is needed.

Love the way this stuff casts on casting reels though. It's silky smooth.

I've been hunting some new "go to" line lately. Due to this thread and others like it, I ordered a big spool of Hybrid earlier today. I've never really used braid but I do LOVE to jig fish, so perhaps I should give it a try soon. I've been on a fluorocarbon kick lately and I've switched brands every couple weeks trying to find one that I liked. I had this silly notion that I needed to be fishing fluorocarbon so I was sticking to that. No matter what brand I bought or what price I paid, I absolutely HATED it. It was either very prone to abrasion and breakage, too stiff to cast well, or too prone to kinking up. I used to use P-Line Fluoroclear and liked it pretty well and was thinking about going back to that, but maybe this Yo-Zuri will be the ticket for me.

Has anybody tried the hybrid "ultra soft" designed for spinning gear? And if so, how does it compare to the normal stuff? It comes in 600 yard spools, and with that much line i'll throw it on a baitcaster too. Just wanna know the difference.

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Has anybody tried the hybrid "ultra soft" designed for spinning gear? And if so, how does it compare to the normal stuff? It comes in 600 yard spools, and with that much line i'll throw it on a baitcaster too. Just wanna know the difference.

Ultrasoft is all I use, unless you need it in a test higher than 20lb..The regular hybrid has more memory than the ultrasoft. So yep, you can use it on any baitcasting reel too.  ;)

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I'll stand by it still being me so used to braid. After using it only for...I guess the entire year, that would make sense. There may well have been slack as well, it's been fairly windy here lately, so I'm sure that the boat getting blown around a bit more than I'd like has left a little slack in my line.

Out of curiosity, do you guys like using Yo-zuri for jigs as well? Haven't had a chance to really test that out yet.

Yo-zuri's hybrid is my line of choice for cranks and topwater, everything else braid with flourocarbon leader if necessary. For jig fishing braid is a must for feeling structure and cover. In my experience you feel more fish and miss less with braid especially for weighted lures and soft plastics.

I've always jig fished with fluoro. I'll try the hybrid, and if i like it throw it on my jig rod too. Braid may be great for sensitivity, but i just can't stop thinking about how visible it is when i use it. I just have more confidence in less visible lines.

I've always jig fished with fluoro. I'll try the hybrid, and if i like it throw it on my jig rod too. Braid may be great for sensitivity, but i just can't stop thinking about how visible it is when i use it. I just have more confidence in less visible lines.

You ever heard of a leader?

Ha ha, yeah... i've done leaders before. What knot do you guys tie for braid to fluoro? I don't remember which knot it was, but i didn't have much luck with it. It was one of the recommended knots too. I lost way too many on the hook set only to find the knot at my leader didn't do its job.

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Albright special or the Alberto Knot.

Those look a lot better than what i was tying...i'll try those. Thanks.

Ha ha, yeah... i've done leaders before. What knot do you guys tie for braid to fluoro? I don't remember which knot it was, but i didn't have much luck with it. It was one of the recommended knots too. I lost way too many on the hook set only to find the knot at my leader didn't do its job.

The two most popular are the uni to uni and alberto knot.

Alberto knot retains most of the line strength (I want to say 80%+?) but is a pain to tie (for me). The uni to uni is closer to 50% but I can tie on a leader in under a minute. I barely fish anything except braid and have had 0 problems with the uni to uni knot.

It sounds to me like the problem may not be the knot. Two things to think about:

1) Hookset. Are you still using a massive bone-jarring hookset? If so it's not necessary; braid has no stretch so you're transferring the energy more efficiently. My hooksets are more like a quick gentle jerk of the rod.

2) Drag. If you didn't back off the drag when using braid it's probably way too tight. Again, the lack of stretch comes into play and you don't have a shock absorber as with mono/flouro. I also see most people check the drag by just pulling line from the reel. In reality, that line also has resistance from the rod, going through the guides etc. Try hooking your lure to something and then loading the rod until the drag starts stripping. Maybe it's just me, but I was shocked to actually see how much pressure I had to apply that way vs just pulling line out from the reel the first time I tried it.

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