With all of the following benefits of e10, I just can't wait for E15 to be mandated.

Both of our vehicle check engine lights stay on constantly. The boat doesn't have as much power, mileage is terrible, and lawn mowers won't start. generator won't start, have to add costly additives, drives up food prices, cost $1 to produce 70 cents worth of energy, can't let fuel sit for more than 30 days, injects a lot of water directly into your outboard motor, etc. All of this on (supposedly) E10.

you lost me at the E part

E for ethanol. Gas mileage is poor especially when towing. What I do not understand is where they will get the corn. I travelled a coule of weeks ago on business through Illinois, Missouri and Kansas, unbelievable how little corn they are growing this year.

My shop has replaced on average 4-5 fuel pumps every month for the last couple years.  Many throttle body rebuilds, tank r/r, etc.  These figures are up substantially over prior years.  I can't say that ethanol definitely is the cause of these problems, but I can't say it isn't either........

E10 is the only gas one can buy around here, it's the law.  

It was about fifteen years ago when they tried selling this stuff on us: better fuel economy, better for your engine, blah blah blah.  

Point is, this stuff is the worst.  I know people who drive for hours to fill tanks with non-ethanol fuel.  I can't blame them.

I saw a news report last year when this was so big... that 10% E-10 gas caused an average drop of 12% in fuel economy. So in the infinite wisdom of the government, we actually use more fuel than if we didn't use the ethanol mixed gasoline. :-/

I saw a news report last year when this was so big... that 10% E-10 gas caused an average drop of 12% in fuel economy. So in the infinite wisdom of the government, we actually use more fuel than if we didn't use the ethanol mixed gasoline. :-/

Well, the initial reasoning for E10 isn't for added fuel efficiency or to be more "green".  The ethanol is added to oxygenate the gas so that it burns more completely thereby reducing emmissions.  The addition of an oxygenate is required by the Clean Air Act.  Ethanol replaced MTBE as the additive to oxygenate when MTBE was found to be carcinogenic and it started appearing in groundwater.  

With all of the following benefits of e10, I just can't wait for E15 to be mandated.

Both of our vehicle check engine lights stay on constantly.

Ethanol has been used as the oxygenate of choice for YEARS.  MTBE has been banned in Illinois since 2001 and it's replacement was ethanol so ethanol has been used as the oxygenate in 100% of your gas purchased at regular stations since AT LEAST then.  

That's a long time to have your check engine lights on.

There is only one chain of gas stations/convenience stores in the Nashville area that 'supposedly' sells Non-ethanol gas.  They proudly claim on signage around the stations that their gas contains no ethanol.

For some reason, I always thought that they would get their fuel from the same refineries, distributors, etc that all the other companies do....wouldn't they?

That said, I try to only use that gas, going on the benefit of the doubt that it may be true that there is no ethanol in there.

Not at todays levels.

With all of the following benefits of e10, I just can't wait for E15 to be mandated.

Both of our vehicle check engine lights stay on constantly.

Ethanol has been used as the oxygenate of choice for YEARS. MTBE has been banned in Illinois since 2001 and it's replacement was ethanol so ethanol has been used as the oxygenate in 100% of your gas purchased at regular stations since AT LEAST then.

That's a long time to have your check engine lights on.

Not at todays levels.

Not up to 15%, but 10% has been around the Chicago area for at least as long as MTBE has been banned.