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Did anyone else catch this last night. Swisher on the steal of second was clearly tagged out. Umpire called him safe. They showed the replay 20 times and he was clearly out. Swisher advanced to third. Then a fly ball. Swisher tagged and appeared to score. They appealed to third and called him out for leaving early. Then the replay showed the 3rd base umpire walking up the third base line only watching the outfielder catch the ball. He never once looked back at Swisher. He made up for the horrible call at second. I thought it was awesome that they did that and it nullified anyone's second guessing.

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Forget that....get it right.  Period.  Three SIMPLE calls that were simply blown.  Wait until this happens in a close game, and a World Championship is on the line.  Inexcusable.  And it hasn't just been this series, its been for all the playoffs, and throughout the regular season.  Its as if the umps actually want to go to instant replay.

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This is the playoffs, the Championship is on the line.  

  Get it right the first time.   post season, regular season, just get it right.

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Did anyone else catch this last night. Swisher on the steal of second was clearly tagged out. Umpire called him safe. They showed the replay 20 times and he was clearly out. Swisher advanced to third. Then a fly ball. Swisher tagged and appeared to score. They appealed to third and called him out for leaving early. Then the replay showed the 3rd base umpire walking up the third base line only watching the outfielder catch the ball. He never once looked back at Swisher. He made up for the horrible call at second. I thought it was awesome that they did that and it nullified anyone's second guessing.

Are you sure the home plate umpire didn't make that call ?

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My friend Paul is a minor league ump, and per him, that isn't the home plate umps call with a crew that size.  He shouldn't be looking back at Swisher, he watches the ball being caught, and keeps the bag, with the runners foot in his periphery.

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Did anyone else catch this last night. Swisher on the steal of second was clearly tagged out. Umpire called him safe. They showed the replay 20 times and he was clearly out. Swisher advanced to third. Then a fly ball. Swisher tagged and appeared to score. They appealed to third and called him out for leaving early. Then the replay showed the 3rd base umpire walking up the third base line only watching the outfielder catch the ball. He never once looked back at Swisher. He made up for the horrible call at second. I thought it was awesome that they did that and it nullified anyone's second guessing.

Are you sure the home plate umpire didn't make that call ?

On the replay they showed Swisher ^5 ing....switched to Torie Hunter appealing then the 3rd base umpire ringing him out.

Guys, I used to umpire as well. It is hard to get everything right 100% of the time. Some are very blatant others are too close to call. I think they are really doing thier best. And J Francho......they pretty much have instant replay allready with these huge video boards. Everyone in that stadium saw Swisher tagged out at second. You could hardly hear the announcers for the booing for a couple minutes. I believe the third base umpire made up for the missed call when he called Swisher out for leaving to early when he did not see it and Swisher did NOT leave early. Missed calls on both rectified by not allowing a run to score who should of been out @ second. I am not excusing missed calls by any means. I just thought it was cool how they fixed the first one.

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All is fair, I suppose.  No one fixed the blown calls at first, earlier in the series.  Neither did they take back all the balls that Scott Kasmir threw early, that suddenly became strikes when Napoli was asked to get lower, Pena style, when catching.  I don't think umps should take it upon themselves to "fix" their mistakes.  Will they fix the error with Cano and Posada both on 3rd tomorrow night?  They were both out.  No harm, no foul there, but it affected pitch count - not that that mattered.  

I realize there is instant replay for the fans, but as far as reaching a decision about a call, instant replay is only part of the game if a team appeals on a fair/foul ball over the home run.

I'm not the only one that has noticed atrocious post season officiating.  In the post game show, on the YES Network, Kenny Singleton relayed a conversation he and Joe Morgen had while watching the game.  They basically concurred with what I'm saying.  While mistakes happen, and its only human, this post series has more blown calls than recent memory serves.

I will agree, there have been some lousy calls happening, and that 3rd base call was onm of the worst ever...but the Yanks did clean them up never the less, sorry had to say that ;)

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Whats sad is, that wasn't his worst call of the game.    

   The fifth inning beat the 4th by a mile or two.

I don't know about instant replay for every questionable call, but a challenge system like the NFL would be cool.

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If an ump sitting in a booth was seeing the TV views on most of these calls like the fans are, there would be no delay, not anymore than there is already, beep the ump and tell him to change it based on TV ump in booth, no need to have the ump go see the call, thus just tell him they screwed the pooch and over turn the call.

   Sorry, in todays market, they show ten times more games than they did in the 60's and such, back then, there was no cable or TV revenues to garner and the games weren't broad cast to 50 states and 100 countries either, it is now days.

    Sorry, the game changed because of the owners and money, I see no reason it can't change for the better after watching the 100 terrible calls this season that required one view only, the original view.    

   LOL, two bad calls in the 4th inning by the same guy.    

Live broadcasts will always try to give the fans the best view the first time.    

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As my grandmother used to say :"Two wrongs dont make a right"

My friend Paul is a minor league ump, and per him, that isn't the home plate umps call with a crew that size. He shouldn't be looking back at Swisher, he watches the ball being caught, and keeps the bag, with the runners foot in his periphery.

Yea I think that is true, and keeping the umps together is better I think

Sadly those questionable calls at 3rd happened to probably the best umpire in the majors in Tim McClelland.  He is the same guy who called George Brett out in the pine tar game.   It happens to every umpire, officials, referree.  Sometimes it happens in front of 100 people, sometimes it happens in front of millions.  Unfortunately, his happened in that latter.

Speaking as a 25yr umpire ( no majors some college ) the tag play from 3rd is a tough cal to get position on.

The call at second though.... about 80% of the time if the throw is good and beats the runner he is out. If a lazy or sloppy tag then??? but combined with a good solid snap tag the runner is probably out 98% of the time. To have both those and still screw up the play is not good for the resume.

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If an ump sitting in a booth was seeing the TV views on most of these calls like the fans are, there would be no delay, not anymore than there is already, beep the ump and tell him to change it based on TV ump in booth, no need to have the ump go see the call, thus just tell him they screwed the pooch and over turn the call.

Sorry, in todays market, they show ten times more games than they did in the 60's and such, back then, there was no cable or TV revenues to garner and the games weren't broad cast to 50 states and 100 countries either, it is now days.

Sorry, the game changed because of the owners and money, I see no reason it can't change for the better after watching the 100 terrible calls this season that required one view only, the original view.

LOL, two bad calls in the 4th inning by the same guy.

Live broadcasts will always try to give the fans the best view the first time.

Awesome post, great solution!

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