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Is there a bigger doofus than Aaron Martens?

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Started off yesterday with watching Ultimate Match Fishing - he complained when he lost the coin toss and then had a minor freak out when he ran to his first spot and there was somebody fishing in the area - finally Joe Thomas asked the guy if they could fish around his and the gay said "year".  Then he whined about the "over-the-line" calls (this is common on the show, but he has to whine about it).

Then this morning watched the Guntersville tournament - same thing, wanted to fish a spot and there were boats all over it - said to the guys "do you know I'm leading this tournament?" - "I'm fishing for $100 K!" Then called one of the other guys a "liar" when he said he was pre-fishing for a tournament the next week.

The boy can catch fish - I give him that - but what a terrible spokesman for professional fishing.

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I agree he is a whiner. Finishing runner up in 3 or 2 (?) classics has to be crushing.

At work we have to attend several rah rah classes each year. One of mine a couple years back was not making excuses. The thing lasted a couple hours but the quick breakdown of the whole thing was people who constantly make excuses or whine were basicly trying to explain or offer reasons for there own mediocrity. By offering excuses or blaming something else they were rationalizing thier own shortcomings. Anyway alot of what I heard in that speech made alot of sense. Especially when it comes to fishing.

I broke this rule the other night and tried to blame hooks. Now 2 days removed I realize I did something stupid that cost me 3 good fish.  My first reaction was to blame the hooks and not except my errors but now I know I have nobody to blame but myself.  >:(

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I think he clearly has some form of an anxiety/social disorder. But then again Fourbizz complains like him... ::)

Must be a Cali thing.

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I think he clearly has some form of an anxiety/social disorder. But then again Fourbizz complains like him... ::)

Must be a Cali thing.

Could be. I'm diggin' that new avatar Tin!

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4 game set with them this weekend!

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I agree. It's way more fun to keep your mouth shut in the midst of adversity and then prevail - then soak up the admiration. I'd rather get crapped on and come out on top then be on top and ***** and moan to stay there.

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He is a POW!!!

His head has cost him more tournament wins then his fishing ability.

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Interesting post and answers.

I remember when Ike went ballistic and everyone got on his case.

He did not cry, he just went nuts.

Now, we are getting on Aaron's case for being emotional and trying to win a tournament.

I guess pressure does different things to different people.

And Tin, Yankees win 3 of 4 this weekend at Boston?????  :D   :D   :D

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he complained when he lost the coin toss  

Why would he complain since he won the coin toss?

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I have said this before and still stick by it, this is how they like to portray him on TV.  You hardly ever seen him on television without these moments cut in.  He's a helluva fisherman, probably one of the most well rounded out there, IMO.  Does he get a little whinny, yes but people deal with adversity different.  Plus it's about what is interesting for television, even though they are fishing shows, the FISHING takes a back seat to the antics of certain anglers while on the water.

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I have said this before and still stick by it, this is how they like to portray him on TV. You hardly ever seen him on television without these moments cut in. He's a helluva fisherman, probably one of the most well rounded out there, IMO. Does he get a little whinny, yes but people deal with adversity different. Plus it's about what is interesting for television, even though they are fishing shows, the FISHING takes a back seat to the antics of certain anglers while on the water.

Probably the truest thing I have ever seen on this forum.  Aaron is an incredible angler and is completely chill.  The moment he mutters some stuff under his breath it is played over and over.

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I am fortunate enough to have Aaron as a member of my website and I can say from experience that he is a stand up guy.  He will break his back to help the guys on my site out and is a truly classy guy.  Maybe he handles pressure a little differently than some guys but I can't fault the man for being passionate about his fishing and before anyone starts hurling insults, consider the fact that he must be doing something right considering the success he has had and continues to have.  Aaron is one of the good guys and in his day to day life he demonstrates that continuously.

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I met Aaron at this year's iCast event, at the Sunline booth.  Talked fishing with him for about 30 minutes and not once did he seem standoffish as some of the pros seemed during the event.  He was very informative and offered advice to other attendees that approached him while we were talking. In my opinion he is a great person and angler.

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I dont have any issues with Aaron or his TV 'attitude'. He's a great fisherman who is 'living the dream'. I'm actually a little jealous of the guy.  ;D  

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When I started this thread I pointed out that he is a really good fisherman and not ever having had a personal encounter with him I can only defer to what you guys that do know him say about him personally.  I just find his "whinning" to be unnecessary and not a good image for professional fishing.

In my own club, we are in a situation right now where some of the "better" fishermen "took their spot" or didn't fish it the way they wanted them to.  All this just seems so unnecessary.  Maybe others on tour do the same thing and it doesn't get recorded and played back, but I can only recall one of two times where others seem to complain as much as he does.  One of them involved Gerald Swindle and I was very disappointed in him at the time.  Aaron seems to do it a lot.  It would seem that getting in his head is easier than getting into a $1 movie.  Is there some connection between that and the number of 2nd places he has recorded?

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Sounds a lot like whinning to me.  In those match fishing deals someone needs to throw the ref. overboard for some of those cross the boat cast calls he loves to make....give it a rest dude!  I can see where Aaron got miffed about that crap.  Someone being on your fishing hole, that sucks too, we've all been there.  So could be whinning or could just be stressing too.  Still kinda sounds like whinning to me though.  

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In those match fishing deals someone needs to throw the ref. overboard for some of those cross the boat cast calls he loves to make....give it a rest dude!

So the referee should disregard the rules?

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I'm fine with rules being adheared to but half the time there isn't a casting violation in the first place.  I mean we all watch it there on the tube and majority of the time it's close, maybe borderline, but the ref. gets carried away most of the time.  I would be good with you pick the spot one time and then next spot is #2mans... and as long as there isn't line contact let them fish at will.  Afterall if I contol the boat and I know I'm going to get my pick every other time as to the place I get 1st chances when we get there.  Ref. takes the fun outta it seems.  

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Here's a topic I admit I know absolutely nothing about. But apparently, neither do most Americans. I pulled it off the web. It might not have anything to do with anything here. I'm probably a million miles off target. But the one good thing it has done is it has stopped me from throwing anymore stones:

"Some of us may appear selfish or self-absorbed or egotistical because we do not respond adequately when someone says something...

"We may look childish in some or all situations because we seem to overreact to things that other people would not react to at all. We may seem gullible and naive, and some people out there will take advantage of that. You may wonder why we never seen to learn that there are people in the world we can't trust.

"Others may appear almost paranoid, trusting no one at all. Some might seem "psychotic" because of our eccentric behaviours or suspiciousness....

"Some of us might appear like loners, or eccentric loners. Some of us might appear as the opposite -- people who try hard to be social but don't know how.

We might look heartless because we do not have the same emotions you do, or more often don't show them in the ways you expect. We might look too sensitive, or too insensitive, or both. We might seem too immature or too mature, or both."

www.autistics.org/library/autadult.html

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Autism is something I know about - are you saying that Aaron has an autistic condition?  If so, that might explain some things, but I have never seen this or heard anything about it.

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Shad Master: No. I don't know. But we had an Aspie teen in our home for 11 months last year, and I ran back across some of the stuff my wife and I were researching. No diagnosis offered--I was just looking at my own attitude toward the TV clips (and anybody else I might be hard on) and wondered if I was being too tough. Have to admit, the guy is a virtuoso bass fisherman.

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Okay, thought you might be on to something there - I have said all along "the boy can catch fish" - just seems to me like he gets too whacked out about things and doesn't make himself a good image for professional fishing.  The back-to-back episodes of Ultimate Match Fishing and then a Bassmaster re-run was too much for me not to blow off some steam.

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