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im getting a 125 gal aquarium soon w/a pump i was just wondering if anyone knew if i'd need a filter. and what kind of other supplies i would need to keep the tank clean and keep the bass alive in it. any help would be appreciated...thanks

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I reponded to your post on the other thread, but I'll do it here too.

A 125 gal. would be way two small for two bass. Yeah they start small, but they grow.

If you didn't know you needed a filter (and a VERY large one at that) I HIGHLY suggest you don't do this. I get the feeling you've never kept fish before. Its work.

Get a 20gal and a couple of cichlids, and start learning about fish keeping (nitrogen cycle, controlling alage, fish disease,etc) before you even THINK about doing this.

Personally, I don't think anyone should keep bass in an aquarium.

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haha yeah i'd probably start with some bream but no i havnt kept fish and im new to learning thats why ive been looking into it...ive seen ppl have kept one in a size tank of about 55 to 75...no matter what im going to end up with the aquarium i guess ill just try it out and see how it goes...i dont ahve a problem with the work though i think it will be worth it...thanks for the help though

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Thanks for that, but I'm really science illiterate so all i got from that was that the waste from fish is bad, therefor i need something to pretty much destroy that? or break it down? what do i need to get to keep the fish alive and healthy? I understand I need to let the tank sit with water for about a week before adding fish but not sure what else I'd need to be in the tank while its doing this.

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A large piece of drift wood goes a LONG way towards keeping your tank healthy. It helps balance out the PH.

Fish tanks are fun but can be VERY expensive for new owners. Getting the water properly conditioned takes time. Do not make the mistake of loading it up with fish. Slowly introduce fish into the new system. If something is wrong you don't want to lose alot of expensive fish all at once.

One way to help kick start your tank is to go to the pet store where you will be buying the fish and ask them for the dirty filter sponges. This has the bacteria in it that your new tank needs to support life.

Fish tanks are alot of work. To keep the tank healthy you have to clean it quite a bit. A water test kit will set you back about $25 bucks but is well worth it.

Most fish store employees don't know crap about keeping a tank healthy.

Fish tanks are awesome when you get them running properly. They are very relaxing. I highly recommend them.

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Buy an Oscar! You won't get so much flak for it on the forums, they have really nice colors and they're predators like LMBs

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Thanks for that, but I'm really science illiterate so all i got from that was that the waste from fish is bad, therefor i need something to pretty much destroy that? or break it down? what do i need to get to keep the fish alive and healthy? I understand I need to let the tank sit with water for about a week before adding fish but not sure what else I'd need to be in the tank while its doing this.

Oh man.. ::)

What you need to "GET", is a base in fish keeping, before you go and pick up a 125 gal tank and put, large, wild , predatory fish in it.

What you need to get is practice in keeping any fish first.

What you need is a 20 gal fish tank and a pet store fish.

There's alot more than throw some water in a tank, let it sit, throw in a fish and there you go. The more and more you post, the more and more I can tell you're not ready to do this.

Do you even know the legality of keeping a bass captive in your state?

Look, I get the feeling your going to do this no matter what, so PLEASE, do alot more reading about the subject. And what ever you do, DO NOT RELEASE THE FISH BACK IN THE WILD. I'd rather see you kill the fish before doing that.

I'm gonna leave it like that. I tried fish gods, I really did... :P

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Haha well your right I'm probably not ready, but I have been looking into it for about a week now b/c the tank was offered to me for free so i mean it got me interested then i noticed people keeping lmb and watching them eat was pretty amazing and i think I'd do/pay a lot to be able to have that in my room. It is legal where i live I've already checked into that. I'll probably start out with a bream in about 2 weeks and see how that goes and if it goes well i will end up putting a largemouth in there. Thanks for the advice i really appreciate it and when it all happens and goes well I'll be sure to post pictures for you  ;D

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Crash course in fish keeping! Very basic!

You have the tank, you need a good filter look into an eheim filter or a comparable brand CANISTER filter, though you can manage with hang on back filters I prefer the canisters for tanks over 100gal.  

Buy a Python, for a tank that size, a python really helps with water changes and filling your tank up. It connects to your faucet to fill your tank up (like a hose) but it can also use the running tap water as suction to suck water out of your tank (don't ask me how)

As for water, as you know tap water has chlorine, chlorine kills fish so you'll need water conditioner, this gets rid of the chlorine and chloramines and other heavy metals from the water.

Buy a Freshwater test kit

This tests for PH, Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates

Quick overview of the nitrogen cycle...

Fish poop releases Ammonia->bacteria breaks ammonia down to

Nitrites->Other bacteria breaks down nitrites to nitrates. Nitrates stay in the water til you take it out via water changes

Ammonia will kill your fish, Nitrites will kill/stress your fish, Nitrates are ok but you don't want it to get too high.

Now that you have your tank filled with conditioned water you need to cycle your tank.  Meaning you need to kick start the nitrogen cycle.  Without ammonia first you won't ever get the bacteria to break it down to get nitrites etc.  Many people buy a few gold fish (.10 ones) and leave them in the tank for a while to jumpstart the cycle.  Test your water.  It should show 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites before you put any fish you want to survive into the tank.

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Buy an Oscar! You won't get so much flak for it on the forums, they have really nice colors and they're predators like LMBs

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Oscar's are great pets. Not very expensive to buy as babies and then you have the pleasure of watching them grow. I bought a baby albino tiger Oscar years ago. Started him out in a 55 gallon tank and fed him flakes, then guppies, then feeder goldfish. He outgrew the 55 gallon tank pretty fast.

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For the haters - he said it's legal in his state. He's been researching it for a while. He wants a pet bass, and he seems to want to take good care of it.

Worst case scenario: a baby bass dies. We've all killed bass unintentionally.

I'm trying to understand why some of you guys are so adamantly against his trying this out. There is virtually no difference between killing a bass while fishing and killing one while trying to keep him in a tank. In both cases it's unintentional, and in both cases the bass die because we're out trying to have fun. If you're so afraid of a baby bass dying, maybe you should quit bass fishing and join PETA.

IMO, a baby bass's life isn't worth as much as the fun he's gonna have trying this out. I say go for it, have fun, and post some pictures  :)

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For the haters - he said it's legal in his state. He's been researching it for a while. He wants a pet bass, and he seems to want to take good care of it.

Worst case scenario: a baby bass dies. We've all killed bass unintentionally.

I'm trying to understand why some of you guys are so adamantly against his trying this out. There is virtually no difference between killing a bass while fishing and killing one while trying to keep him in a tank. In both cases it's unintentional, and in both cases the bass die because we're out trying to have fun. If you're so afraid of a baby bass dying, maybe you should quit bass fishing and join PETA.

IMO, a baby bass's life isn't worth as much as the fun he's gonna have trying this out. I say go for it, have fun, and post some pictures :)

Simple, its unethical. Without any knowledge of fish keeping, he'll be literally torturing the fish to death. Sounds like "fun" huh.

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Simple, its unethical. Without any knowledge of fish keeping, he'll be literally torturing the fish to death. Sounds like "fun" huh.

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For the haters - he said it's legal in his state. He's been researching it for a while. He wants a pet bass, and he seems to want to take good care of it.

Worst case scenario: a baby bass dies. We've all killed bass unintentionally.

I'm trying to understand why some of you guys are so adamantly against his trying this out. There is virtually no difference between killing a bass while fishing and killing one while trying to keep him in a tank. In both cases it's unintentional, and in both cases the bass die because we're out trying to have fun. If you're so afraid of a baby bass dying, maybe you should quit bass fishing and join PETA.

IMO, a baby bass's life isn't worth as much as the fun he's gonna have trying this out. I say go for it, have fun, and post some pictures :)

Why do you use the term "haters" ? I believe that is a little strong.

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In my opinion, fish and all other animals that lack reason are outside the scope of ethics and morality. The only way treating an animal poorly can be considered unethical is if the act in some way encourages similarly poor treatment towards humans. In this case since any possible mistreatment would be unintentional, his wanting to keep a little bass in a tank and enjoy watching it cannot be unethical. Granted, that philosophy is debatable, but notice the qualifier "In my opinion."

Also, he will not be "literally torturing the fish to death," and he is not "without any knowledge of fishkeeping," even though it sounds like you know what you're talking about when it comes to fishkeeping. Whatever anyone says, it sounds like he's gonna go ahead with his plan. Be glad he's researching it at all. I applaud him, you don't, which is fine.

Bass-Brat - when I used "haters" I meant it in the sense that rappers use it, which is not a strong one   ;)

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Alright to start things off Simon, thanks a lot that is exactly the kind of information i was looking for. Tony thanks for helping me out against everyone who is against me in doing this. Hah even though there are plenty of people that do it. I know I'm a newb at having a fish tank but so far i have learned a lot, and I'm pretty certain i can keep a fish without it dying. Suskydude lighten up a little bit and go check out some of the videos on youtube and look how amazing a little bass is and how awesome it is to watch it eat. I won't start out with a bass more than likely I'll start out with a bream. And if it dies I'll buy a fish from the store until I've perfected keeping a fish THEN I will go catch my little bass:) I believe you saying it'll be torture to the fish was a little dramatic. And i think the only kind of human that could torture a fish by not knowing enough would be a little 5 year old. I'm sorry but i do have enough common sense to look into things before i go try them, at least give me that. Its not like this is my 5th attempt in keeping a bass. Loosen up a little susky.

btw tony...ily, that was pretty much exactly what should've been said.

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Simple, its unethical. Without any knowledge of fish keeping, he'll be literally torturing the fish to death. Sounds like "fun" huh.

Oh, last thing - please explain how a beginner fisherman is being ethical while a beginner fishkeeper is being unethical. If you can't, and hold to what you say - that he shouldn't keep a bass in a tank because he doesn't know what he's doing - then you're also saying that beginner fishermen shouldn't fish because they don't know what they're doing. Both are looking to have fun, and in doing so, both inadvertently kill bass  ::)

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For the haters - he said it's legal in his state. He's been researching it for a while. He wants a pet bass, and he seems to want to take good care of it.

Worst case scenario: a baby bass dies. We've all killed bass unintentionally.

I'm trying to understand why some of you guys are so adamantly against his trying this out. There is virtually no difference between killing a bass while fishing and killing one while trying to keep him in a tank. In both cases it's unintentional, and in both cases the bass die because we're out trying to have fun. If you're so afraid of a baby bass dying, maybe you should quit bass fishing and join PETA.

IMO, a baby bass's life isn't worth as much as the fun he's gonna have trying this out. I say go for it, have fun, and post some pictures :)

Tokyo Tony for President!!!!

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For the haters - he said it's legal in his state. He's been researching it for a while. He wants a pet bass, and he seems to want to take good care of it.

Worst case scenario: a baby bass dies. We've all killed bass unintentionally.

I'm trying to understand why some of you guys are so adamantly against his trying this out. There is virtually no difference between killing a bass while fishing and killing one while trying to keep him in a tank. In both cases it's unintentional, and in both cases the bass die because we're out trying to have fun. If you're so afraid of a baby bass dying, maybe you should quit bass fishing and join PETA.

IMO, a baby bass's life isn't worth as much as the fun he's gonna have trying this out. I say go for it, have fun, and post some pictures :)

Tokyo Tony for President!!!!

Republicans........ ::)  Sure, kill it, as long as you have fun. ::)

Susky's point was EDUCATE yourself first.  And yes, it IS legal in his state,....with a permit.  

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Republicans........ ::) Sure, kill it, as long as you have fun. ::)

Susky's point was EDUCATE yourself first. And yes, it IS legal in his state,....with a permit.

As long as we're allowed to make political comments...ehh, democrats.....  ::) "You're not allowed to kill it, but I can because...well...it's different. I can't explain..."  ::)

Susky's point was that bassfisher11 should not try to keep a bass because he's a beginner, and to try to keep a bass would be unethical. Why do you think bassfisher started this thread? To EDUCATE himself, so that's exactly what he's doing, but people are still against it.

By the way, I'm still waiting for an attempt to explain how a beginner fisherman is being ethical while a beginner fishkeeper is not...I'll take Suskydude's silence as a concession.

For the record, I might sound angry, but I'm not at all. I just enjoy a good argument  8-)

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In my opinion, fish and all other animals that lack reason are outside the scope of ethics and morality. The only way treating an animal poorly can be considered unethical is if the act in some way encourages similarly poor treatment towards humans. In this case since any possible mistreatment would be unintentional, his wanting to keep a little bass in a tank and enjoy watching it cannot be unethical. Granted, that philosophy is debatable, but notice the qualifier "In my opinion."

Also, he will not be "literally torturing the fish to death," and he is not "without any knowledge of fishkeeping," even though it sounds like you know what you're talking about when it comes to fishkeeping. Whatever anyone says, it sounds like he's gonna go ahead with his plan. Be glad he's researching it at all. I applaud him, you don't, which is fine.

Bass-Brat - when I used "haters" I meant it in the sense that rappers use it, which is not a strong one ;)

Well I don't listen to rap so I'll take your word on the meaning of "hater".

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