I know the St. Croix AVC70MM is the newest version, I had one at one time. I just bought a mint condition AC70MM for what I thought was a great price. What I'm not real clear on is the actual difference between the two rods.

Also, what do you think is a good price for a mint used AC70MM?

As I understand it, the AC models are the older ones without IPC (Integrated Poly Curve) technology. The AVC models have IPC and a slightly different finish, as well as a slightly higher price point Not certain on price, though I believe the going rate used to be $90-$120 new...

-T9

If it was what you wanted....it was a good deal at the price you paid! If it is not what you wanted, then it might be a good deal for you to sell it to me!

Jeff

Another, and primary difference on a crank stick, is the guides. The older guides were Fuji Aluminum Oxide, the new guides are Alconite Concepts. The Older rods use a different reel seat, as well, the newer series use Fuji SKM and DPS reel seats. I'm also near certain that the new rods use a double coat of flex coat versus one coat finish on the older rod.

I owned an AC70MHF that broke and St Croix replaced it with an AVC70MHF. Reel seats were the same handles were the same, guides were the same. The AVC has the IPC blank, the AC did not. And the AVC has a glossy finish, the AC was a matte finish. Personaly I have never paid more nor would pay more than $120 for a used Avid.

I owned an AC70MHF that broke and St Croix replaced it with an AVC70MHF. Reel seats were the same handles were the same, guides were the same. The AVC has the IPC blank, the AC did not. And the AVC has a glossy finish, the AC was a matte finish. Personaly I have never paid more nor would pay more than $120 for a used Avid.

The seats aren't the same. They look the same, feel the same, but they're not the same model from Fuji. The guides aren't either, as stated previously. The new rods use the Alconite Concept guides.

The seats aren't the same. They look the same, feel the same, but they're not the same model from Fuji. The guides aren't either, as stated previously. The new rods use the Alconite Concept guides.

I am not going to argue with you, but, according to the St Croix, and my memory your wrong, at least when compairing the two rods I had. Both rods had Fuji ECS reel seats , and Alconite guides. I save the tags from all my rods, and just looked.

They did have the ECS reel seat, I'll give you that. There's two seats in the casting rods. ECS and TPS. On the others, we'll have to agree to disagree.