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Make hooks rust a million times faster, yes.... welp, on last day of 3 days of fishing.... need some hawgs today....

Thanks Raul dang good explanation! But it wasn't my reason heh And yup knowledge is king. I tried to make the question a no wrong answer question, but one way or the other question.....as far as, are you aware if there is something you key on on first, or do you generally key in on different things first each time ya go.... It wasn't about constraints, either you're aware, not aware of it, or have no key thing lol heh guess i'll give up on trying to clarify this question and just go back to lurker status, some of the responses were real good though, but i'm not positive they understood what i was asking, and i'm sure some didn't get what i asked at all, sorry thanks anyway though. p.s. debating hitting the lake in the morning, just realized, would be the first time in probably 5 years i've went out on the boat alone, think i'll do it!

I didn't want to get that detailed though, tried to make it plain, and relate to fishing So, when you look at the whole scenario, what grabs your eye first, or what are you looking at first , heh ..... tough crowd here.... Kinda surprised about the water temp responses. May try to start to factor it sooner in my mind for awhile and see if helps.

I'm asking for a different reason. But now i got another question too, heh How many different largemouth species. I think i've seen 3 in north carolina alone.

yah, I know. But I think we all have sometihng we look for. Kinda like everyone knows how complicated a day in life can be, some us get up and put our pants on, some get drink a cup of coffee, some use the bathroom. And after awhile it gets to more of habit than importance of how we do it. I was trying to stay away from best, important, but more of personally important. Like my cousin, he is going to some kind of big structure first, no matter what anything else is doing...

Do most all these lakes stock alot with trout?

Maybe I'm not asking it right road heh. I think I should have worded it, What "most" determines what you do, instead of how I put it. Like for instance, I can't tell ya how much I take into consider when I go fishing, temp, depth, basically everything, but I don't start considering everything else till I figure out exactly what the wind is doing. basspro seems to get what i'm asking, he goes temp, and then basically everything else he feels is dictated by temp. Not that temp or wind or anything else is the main thing, just something you seem to always look at first, to get your a sense. May not even factor at all in the fish you catch... see what i'm asking? edit, for peter. yah i understand there is no on thing that catches fish, I realize people use a formula of anykind, whether is be flp or whatever. It's not about all the things you look at, it's about if you feel like there is one thing that comes first personally.

Thanks, I've tried looking, and there is some stuff on tubes, I was hoping to find out more about hollow bodies though. Seems it's more complicated for backyard builders. Only technique I could find really was squish molding...for more complicated bodies. Think i'm gonna start with tubes first though, and get a feel for hollow bodiy stuff before going to far.

roadwarrior (list of 10???) heh, cool i guess Since you listed current first, i'm hoping that is the thing you notice about yourself that seems to hit you first..... My dad sees it like that also. He wants to feel the current, and i'm like huh, I don't feel it! Think even when we fish the bank, he wants to at a part that's getting current or pretty close.... He's always wanting to be near current. Peter, no big deal if there is no one thing for you personally that stands out..... just something that develops over time, not something you choose to notice first, but realize one day it's the dominating factor in your style of fishing? Not sure if I asked it right.... I guess your response meant, no, there is not a 1 single thing that steers my style. And no, you can't list a bunch of things and call it one heh

This is mostly about personal awareness, preference. Not exactly what's best. But still would love to hear the pros and cons of each of yours and maybe why we should or shouldn't let one thing be such a factor. I know everything plays a role, which do you think affects you the most? Or what do you think of first before anything else? For me, I think it's wind. I think wind plays more of a role than anything when it comes how, where and what I fish with. Since I mainly fish plastic worms, I think maybe letting wind dictate alot of what I do isn't so bad. Though, there have been many times which I couldn't do exactly what I wanted because of the wind. And I would prefer, there was never any wind so I could work or present the lure exactly like I wanted.... But the fact is, sometimes it's gonna be windy, so I try to use it to my best advantage. I do prefer to throw into the wind so it's easier to keep contact with my lure. But for all the determining factors, is seems for me, it's always, wind + whatever? It's the first thing I consider no matter what...

cgs2004, It's a pretty clunky interface. see arrows on side of the map? oops, forgot to add, once you got the spot on the map , click the zoom icon above the map and then click on the exact spot to center... I don't use it much soo, could be wrong I like the live local, switch to aerial and you can get a pretty dang good look at any lake you want.

Of course, she may be planted to the bottom with that 3lb weight they tossed in her and we'll never see her

heh guess I'm the only one with no

Ah that had to be an awesome feeling. 22 lbs..... Imagine how technology was back then, Wonder how long it took for the news of the catch to get to bass fishermen across America.... I might look into the standing state records across the country to see how much bigger it was, than current state records. Wonder if thiere any sites that have data that old.... Bet you'd have to do some serious legwork to find out all that kinda stuff back then. heh I think I need to start spell check before posting Oh and lemme add before I get banned or this gets locked, heh, The igfa didn't officially take over record keeping from field and stream until 1978.. I didn't know that.

nonono, those are cali bass !! They done strained the florida out of them with those trout lol Just curious, anyone here ever fish Dixon, and if so, do you know if they installed the huge fish aerators? Just wondering, lake I go to, at times of the year, those aerators are a sight to behold, the amount of shad and 2-3 lb bass flopping all raround in the bubbles is truely a crazy sight to watch.

Yah, people deserve the benefit of the doubt, or no record should be legal unless the catch is witnessed or caght on video from the start to finsh. And that is never gonna happen, so if we don't give em the benefit of the doubt, then it it will all just become meaningless. The whole reason I started to question anything was two main reasons, one which was a misread on my part, I just misunderstood something. I apologized for that. The second reason was in an early interview with the kid, he didn't come out and say, they were trying to foul hook the fish, but he sure made it sound fishy....which now I not sure what to read into that, but I think it was no big deal, probably just the kid took it wrong. But once you start questioning everything, I mean, it gets to a point, where, hey, there is no way these guys could make this amount of mistakes. So now, I think it's very very unlikely they made so many mistakes, and it was, justt what it was, a foul hook hooked fish they had no intention of certifying in the first place. There one and only mistake was probably just leaving the door open after the catch, by waiting a few days to make it official they wouldn't attempt the certify, And i'm not positive i would have been any different form that, but that's jsut my opinion. It's still the most incredible fish in history, regardless of anything said by anyone, I love it. Wish I'd been there just to it in the flesh.

I dunno where to begin with matt, heh So i'll start with a story. But measurements don't mean much, I mean they do, but you can't determine the actual weight of the fish, here's a story why I know that to be true. The first big bass I ever caught, as in over 5lbs. Was almost 31 inches long... 31inches!!!!! Take a wild guess how much she weighed.... this is gonna blow your mind. 9 and 3/4 pounds! unreal huh? Now this 20 years ago, and even though we did practice catch and release. This girl was going on the wall, and heck I was young, I had didn't know why we did catch and release, except the pond we fished all the bass and bream had a terrible muddy taste to them. Only thing we ever kept was crappie. So i call the the taxidemist, I wanted the best around. And It was like 5 or 6 bucks an inch for a bass mount. When I told him the length, he was like, you sure? I had already told him the weight, and he asked several times was I sure about the length. He then he started asking me about the fish, I told him it was like her belly was hollow. It was more like stretched skin than normal looking and the rest of her looked skinny, she just had no fat on her like other fish i had caught, in fact she looked like she had been starving. And he said, well if this was fish healthy and if you had caught her maybe at differnt time of the year, he said she would have easily went 13lbs or heck even more, he said he didn't know, but the fish should weight alot more than 9 and 3/4 pounds. So he tells me to put it in the freezer and he'll get to it as soon as he can. which this guy is in bigtime demand. And he said it was going to be 5 to 6 months. Well, it was no big deal. I was happy. Now, after about a month, my cousin's kid, who was pretty young, maybe 9. He goes and unplugs the freezer, which is out in the shop. And plugs up some electric tool and starts messing around with it. Well, the not thinking, he left and didn't plug the dang freezer back up... Well, I don't know how many days went buy, but it started stinking.... I mean STINKING. And you talk about a mess.... Needless to say, my fish was gone. Sure I was mad about it, but being young myself I didn't much thought into it. Now years later, People talk about length and all that. I start realizing what I had. While it was nothing special in terms of it's size, it's length was incredible. And I didn't even cross my mind at the time to take a picture since it was going on the wall. Now think about it, I got no proof at all I ever caught a bass that was almost 31inches long and only weighed 9 and 3/4lb. Except for my dad who was with me and measured it and weighed it.... sickening huh? Oh and for those wondering what I hung her on, this is wild too, a little bitty black beetle spin.... I was crappie fishing around the drain pipe That was a looong bass. I've go so many stories about me and my dad fishing I could fill up the forums with em. Heck I don't even believe some of them, but I was there, i know they happened...heh But anyway, about the polygraph and other stuff, I really don't know about all that. Ask mac to take a poly about intentioanlly snagging the fish or if he tried to cancel it was fould hooked at anytime.... I'm sure he'd refuse a poly too. Why? It's insulting. I'm sure it was just as insulting 74 years ago. As far as the picture, it probably does what so many pictures do, doesn't do the bass justice. Even the 25lb bass, doesn't do it justice. I can't stand the picture of the recent 25lb one. I'm so glad they got it on video, where you can tell something. The picture they got is horrible. You can tell it's big, but you can't tell it's 25lb by any stretch of the imagination. But it does capture the fatness of the girl. I'm so glad they got video, i'd be seriously disappointed if all we had to go by is the picture. I don't care how many times you look at the picture, there's just no justice in how big the fish really is. And lastly, that pic with that fish, claimed to be 13lbs. Te me the way he's holding it and all that, you can estimate it's size pretty good, i'd think, it would be better if it were close and hanging by his side, holding sideways kinda obscures it's fattyness . If you want me to go into detail about how, I will. But the main thng is how the background isn't way behind the fish. And example of a bad pic is the current 25lb fish, where he's holding it out towards the camera, those pictures are by far the worst to estimate. Because it can do 2 things....One, make a small fish look way bigger than it is, and as in the 25lb fish, make a huge fish appear smaller...You might think that impossible, but it's a common illusion. If Perry's record fish has a picture, unless it as good as the one posted here of the 13 lber, preferably hanging, instead of holding it up sideways. It wouldn't detemine the exact weight of the fish, but you could make a pretty good guess.

Sure it's possible it's not true. But yah a 74 year old record does holds alot of water. In 74 years, anyone offered proof it wasn't 22lbs? I mean some have called him a liar from this picture posted. I mean, I practicaly busted out laughing when yall said this fish wasn't even 10 , much less 13 hahah If your basis for the 22lb record is that you "think" that other pic is of a small 6lb fish, heh i'm gonna stop wasn't my time with you guys.

It's pretty dang hard to question sometihng 74 years old... And if it's 74's years old, it must be pretty stout.. I get a kick out of you guys saying that fish in that old pic isn't 13lbs, when there nothing about it to indicate otherwise. I'm just curious on how yall get that fish isn't 10lbs, hah maybe Perry isn't the one that needs to work on his fish estimation...

But your clip from the article doesn't say he foul hooked it with a jig... sooo.. It's not a big deal concerning Cali as some of you guys are thinking either heh, It's 25lb bass, that is all that matters. A foul hook fished will always have controversy, regardless if it's 15lb or 25lb, or whether it's from Cali or North Carolina.

Roger, everyone knows it's happened before, and everyone one knows there are times it has been INTENTIONAL foul hooking. /shrug to this post....

It seems alot of the guys that are defending the 25lbr are insulting the crap out of Perry. That fish in that picture def looks nice. I guess you guys are use to those deformed cali fish.... heh sounds like you guys are on some kinda Cali agenda or something. Starting to see a distubing trend in the forums

huh matt? what part of , I take back they being shady didn't ya understand? There is no possible way they made so many mistakes. Or could be so confused about what to do.. As far as the foul hook, I understand the anticpation, I don't even consider the foul hook as a mistake, just something that happened... which of course sucked. Sure, hindsight, you can call it a mistake, maybe coulda been more patient or whatever. But I consider it just bad luck on the foul hook more so than a mistake. I'm pretty sure they knew the fish wouldn't go, and when they caught it, it was just decided not to make the decision on the spot about going it being certified. Which I consider thier only mistake. It left room for controversy. It would be different if this was thier first time in California. Or if they had been just regular fishermen on an outing. If they thought there was even the slightest chance the fish was a legal catch, they would have atleast taken measurements and called the warden down.

Well i've called him shady, I'm i'm gonna take that back. However I disagree about the "what we would do" And I'lll explain that. I think these guy knew exactly what to do. They knew the fish wasn't gonna go.... but you know dang well you aren't gonna catch a 25lb and just toss it over the boat. You're gonna do exactly what they did, you gonna take it to the dock and get video and and atleast get it recognized. It hit me after I posted they called the lawyer. So to that point, I don't believe in anyway, not even a regular angler not even interested in the WR would make the mistakes these guys made. So it leads me to think, they weren't mistakes. It was just a matter of they knew it wsan't going to go, so lets just get it recognized and back in the water. Maybe, they should have come out and said from the start they had no intention of trying, but I can't say i blame them for not shutting that door, even though you probably should. I think that is what i learned from this, . If anything ever happens like this, don't leave any doors open, if you do the controversy will build. So, I take back what I said about being shady. But seeing how this is a 25lb bass and he did give those few days for the pot to stir, i'd love to bombard him with questions! But I don't think I'd be as tough on him as before. I can't get over how big this was, not just the fish but for bass fishing in general.

I saw a few articles on making your own worms, but anyone know any links or articles that cover plastics likes tubes? In other words hollow body plastics. Any help would be great, thanks dangit wrong forum, sorry bout that..... can you move it ?