Josh Smith

5500. No bloody A, B, C, or D. Josh

I do not like the Black Max all that much. It just isn't my style. That said, it is a decent reel and retails by itself at around $50. Josh

That is the new post, right above yours. I posted instead of previewed is all. Josh

I am not saying this. Not at all. I would never say anything of the sort. 85mm is about 3.35" 94mm is about 3.70" Gear ratio and line retrieve in inches per turn are not easily changed, and therefore considered constants. With the 3.35" diameter handle, the distance of the reel handle knob moved in one full rotation is π • 3.35, or about 10.5" per 31.6" of line retrieved. With the 3.70" Hawgtech 3.70" handle, the distance the reel handle knob moves in one full rotation is π • 3.70, or about 11.6" . Therefore, the stock handle moves a circumference of 10.5" for every 31.6" of line retrieved. Agreed? The Hawgtech handle handle moves a circumference of 11.6" for every 31.6" of line retrieved. Agreed? Reducing: 10.5 / 10.5 : 31.6 / 10.5 = 1 : 3.01 (Do we agree here?) and 11.6 / 11.6 : 31.6 / 11.6 = 1 : 2.72 (Do we agree here?) With the stock handle, for every inch of handle movement, you retrieve 3.01" of line. With the Hawgtech handle, for every inch of handle movement, you retrieve 2.72" of line. Do you agree with the above? Regards, Josh Edit: Done editing.

Hello, You're misinterpreting what I'm saying. What is the distance a reel knob travels in one full turn of the reel handle? Josh

The debate is that the ratio of the length of the circle described by the handle in one full rotation to the inches per turn of line retrieve is a much more meaningful representation of reel speed than is gear ratio. Inches per turn can only be changed by changing gears or the spool diameter. That's not the debate. I contend that because, 6.3:1 of manufacturer A doesn't necessarily equal the 6.3:1 of manufacturer B, that a much more meaningful ratio would be the length of the circle described by the reel handle to the inches-per-turn of line retrieve. That, and Pluto might be a planet again. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pluto+is+a+planet+again) Josh

I heard they just reclassified it as such in a vote of scientists. I've not followed upon this. It was on the radio news a few weeks ago.

The math is fine. Overall gear ratio does change in a car when you change tire size. You cover more road for the same engine RPM with larger tires. As well, the speedometer will be off something like 5mph per inch if I recall. It's been a while since I built a vehicle. Those were the teenage years. Sure was fun, though! Hotrodding reels and guns is much easier on the back. Josh

TiNuts and Timsford described this far better than I can. It's like two bicycles with fixed sprockets, both with 6:1 gearing, say. The pedals are the same distance apart, too. One bicycle has 20" tires. The other bicycle has 26" tires. The 26" tired bike will go faster because its overall ratio is greater. Josh

Bigger circle = longer distance traveled. Regards, Josh

I don't care how big the bass's mouth is. Don't do that. Josh

I have a Lew's Speed Stick. It's a nice rod. Tournament grade, fiberglass, made in Japan. It's impressive and tough but not overly sensitive. It loads easily, though. Probably not what you're asking, though. Josh

Buying reel < buying rod < building reel!

Yep, I do -- and the above is why I do instead of relying on gear ratios. I think I might have gotten carried away in the explanation, though. My wife says I'm a nerd from a family of nerds. Josh

You know, I've actually thought about getting my SCUBA certification and doing this in certain spots. I'm concerned about seaweed though. Josh

What was said. Clean it as you normally would, but no touchup blue etc. Is it cosmoline or rust inside the barrel? You might check out one of the forums that specializes in this sort of thing. I frequent several due to what I do for a living. Feel free to PM me if you wish. Regards, Josh

Hello, This started as a response to another thread but I figured it was enough of a divergence that I probably should create a new thread. You'll very rarely see me discussing reel gear ratios anymore. I've done it once or twice on this board prior to realizing exactly how much reels have changed since the ones I've always been used to. I only want the bottom line of inches retrieved for inches of distance I move the reel handle. C = π • d , where C is circumference (or distance traveled per turn) and d is diameter. Let's say the reel has 30IPT of retrieve. For a 3" reel handle, C = π • 3 ≈ 9.42 inches. That means that for every 30" of line retrieved, 9.42" is traveled by the reel handle. The overall ratio is 3.18 : 1 . Now, take that same reel and give it a 3.5" handle: C = π • 3.5 ≈ 11 inches. This means that for every 30" of line retrieved, 11" is traveled by the reel handle. The overall ratio is therefore 2.73 : 1 . For comparison, an Abu Garcia 5500 from say, 1975 has a retrieve of 23IPT. The stock handle has an center-to-center length of 2.17" at the knob centers. We'll say 2.20" as this this easier to work with. Plug'n'chug: C = π • 2.20 ≈ 6.91 inches. (You see where this is going...) This means that for every 23" of line retrieved, 6.91" of distance is traveled by the reel handle. This is an overall ratio of about 3.32 : 1 . Of course, we take that same reel and put a 3.5" handle on it (C = π • 3.5 ≈ 11 inches), the overall ratio drops to 23:11 or 2.09 :1 . Math is some fun stuff, isn't it? I don't care what the inside gears are. The gears are there to work with the spool and reel handle to make the reel feel a certain way (ergonomics) and to give the reel a certain mechanical advantage. Internal gearing only gives about half the picture. So why the change? Well, simply put, ergonomics. Larger reel handles get the elbow and shoulder working, allowing more initial power to be imparted. With that small 2.20" reel handle referenced for the '75 5500, motion is pretty much limited to the wrist and forearm. What's stronger? The muscles controlling the elbow and shoulder, of course. So you want to get a certain retrieve rate out of a certain lure, right? Well, the 3" handle on the 30IPT reel and the 2.20" handle on the 23IPT reel get very close to the same performance. So why choose the 3" handle reel for faster speed? It feels better. It fatigues less because of the muscle groups used. You could use both reels with about the same effect for maybe 15 minutes, then the advantage of the stronger muscle groups would begin to show. That is, if you're a typical person with more power in his biceps and chest than in his forearms. If you're built like Popeye, you might just have a better time with the short handle! My contention is that reel gearing is mostly hype. Sure, if you're comparing, say, a Black Max to a Pro Max, you'll have two reels that are similar enough that the only real point of difference is the internal gearing. If you start comparing a Black Max to a 5600c3, however, you'll have a radically different feel, and not just because of the different shapes. The two reels are similar in ratio, the Black Max being 6.4:1 in gearing while the 5600c3 is 6.3:1 in gearing, but the Black Max has two inches-per-turn less than the 5600. A better comparison would be a 5500c3 and a Black Max. The 5500c3 has gearing of 5.3:1 but brings in 26IPT! The Black Max, with its 6.4:1 gearing, only brings in 28IPT. I've not worked out the math regarding handle length on these to reels, and therefore don't know the overall mechanical advantages displayed by the two. My suggestion for selecting a reel is to figure out how long a handle is most comfortable for you, and then decide what you want your retrieve rate to be. Then you can calculate the gearing you need to arrive at the reel that's best for you. That's how I do it, anyway. Regards, Josh

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/145860-reel-gearing-vs-inches-retrieved-turn-of-the-reel-handle-and-mechanical-advantage/ Edit: I made this answer a separate thread as it was divergent enough to constitute a threadjacking. Regards, Josh

Overall ratio is changed. The distance traveled by your hand : inches of line retrieved is certainly changed. Josh

1. It produces greater leverage, as was said. In doing this, you reduce the overall gear ratio of the reel, thereby reducing the top speed of the retrieve. Mostly this won't be noticed. 2. It some (maybe most) cases it allows the elbow to help with the retrieve, allowing greater power due to improved ergonomics. Remember that the crank is a glorified lever. It transforms distance traveled to power. The greater the distance traveled for one spool revolution, the more torque imparted on the spool, gears, etc. Josh

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Hello, Are you using Google Translate or similar? Josh

Oregon is the grandfather of Bowtech. I can't for the life of me recall what came between the two. Josh

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