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I have heavy swimbait rods so I ordered some up, these appear to be a little different than the flutter and will be interesting to see if they work in my lake which we have LOTS of gizzard shad and sounds like it works well on straight line retrieve...will be interesting to see if it works around docks etc.

Dicks sporting goods has a couple of tackle storage devices on sale, I would link to them but the website is not loading for me....here are the ones on sale for $20 - Flambeau Outdoors: Fishing Tackle Bag or IKE Speed Sling Backpack Which color would you recommend, couple of lakes I fish have lots of gizzard shad and would love to learn how to fish this spoon and where...I think I will pick some up at this price...MH rod good enough or do you need a heavy?

Dicks sporting goods have Penn Fierce spinning reels on sale, 2500 $55, 3000 and larger $65.... https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/penn-fierce-iv-spinning-reel-22pnfufrcv4000rlcree/22pnfufrcv4000rlcree

Yeah I didnt see as much this year, what did you purchase that you thought was a good deal if you don't mind sharing?

Yeah I noticed that also...but if I remember they did add things to it but doesn't appear to be near as good as last year.

Hate to see this sale since I usually buy to much but Tacklewarehouse is starting there bargain bin sale.....

From what I have seen with the bigger spoons you can watch it and see the depth that it is to keep it out of stuff at least the video's I have watched it was pretty clear they could see the brush tops and the spoon.

This is exactly what I would like to figure out, I think it could be good in the lake just not sure best locations etc....I have some of the big hair jigs but going to keep trying this..... https://www.bassresource.com/fishing/hair-jigs-bass.html

What I was attempting to show isnhow much brush there is, every green box on that screenshot is a brush pile. After every Christmas folks donate the trees and they sink them in jan/feb every year, so there are a lot. The lake itself averages around 12ft or so, main lake towards dam goes to mid twenties but lots of the lake is 12ft or less. I hit some newer brush today, and most keepers that I caught came of brush, kind of hit and miss but will keep trying different locations and see if I can keep figuring things out. Keep trying top water, buzz bait, spook and nothing even interested. Things that I want to try are spoons around the deeper docks and big bucktail hair jigs. I think the spoons could do well over the brush piles but without ffs not wanting to get hung up but something I want to try.

Saw this one big YMMV but supposedly Sportsmanwharehouse has this bubba scale and its on clearance only at the store, again big YMMV. There is an additional 75% off of clearance at select Sportsman Warehouse locations. https://www.sportsmans.com/fishing-gear-supplies/scale-rulers/bubba-pro-series-electronic-fish-scale/p/1801972?

Not sure how good of a deal but discount tackle has swimming fluke, one color albino, 10packs for $20... https://discounttackle.com/products/zoom-swimmin-super-fluke-paddle-tail-5-inch-swimbait-albino-10-pack Here is another one, plano z series tackle box/storage on Amazon - $45 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09S1WLMD7?

Yup Indont disagree, not angood skipper and need tonget better at doing that but from the local weekly derby everyone that I know is hitting the docks but your correct about getting the bait further back etc and using something different. There is a lot of brush in the lake and if I was better with my electronics inprobably could eliminate some quicker but still a wirknin progress. About to go out and decided to spit my four hours up into half and half, half hitting some brushpiles and half hitting the docks... There is just to many tonfish at one time, i need to get better at understanding which ones would be better than others...I will try to take a screenshot of my map when I get back today. Here is the lake and every one of the marking isnbrush and there is more that I do not have listed....

No channel swings, no real points...think lowland reservoir, man made, not real deep. I actually have things charted and have fished it enough to know where almost everything is located. I aslo have the water deeper than 12ft already shaded. Almost everyone beats the banks since there are lots of docks and boat lifts, just would like to figure something offshore that may be more productive

Eh there are some that are better than others....I agree with the time on the water but I also know that I am not using my electronics near to what there capability. Probably should not have used easiest but pretty sure there are some ways better than other when breaking things down. Not possible to fish every brush pile in this lake on a given day there are just to many, just like its not possible to fish all of the docks, just to many. I understand what your saying and don't disagree with the time on the water, year two for me averaging 2-3 days a week year round. I still haven't figured out winter patterns at all but this year with it being year two I do see things a bit more clearly but just like when it gets cold and fish move offshore they do similar things when it gets hot and just looking for ways or suggestions to go about finding them. I do not have FFS and not planning on getting it but as we can all agree it does wonders for helping you find offshore fish.

Yeah I just feelmlike the docks get hammered, they donhold fish and there are a bunch that are in deeper water. Lots of toons, really lots of docks and lifts.... Lots of herons, usually around the docks, lake has lots of baitfish, lots....gizzard shad, crappie, bluegill and lors of green sunfish. Last week everything seemed suspended above the thermocline, it wqs hot all week with bluebird skies. I just need to get better with my electronics. There is so much brush offshore, just not sure where to start, lol...