No bass will ever test your drag like a Snook!

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I guess I have a tad of experience in this area, snook are very formidable much like redfish and ocean striper of the same size, pound for pound they do not compare to a jack crevelle or a tarpon.

Back on subject, the stradic is really a fine reel, IMO they have the best line management. A little pricey for my tastes for a freshwater reel, my supreme has handle jacks, tarpon and snook as easily as my stradics.

4000 is way to big for bass. 2500 or 3000. the 3000 is same size as 2500 except it has a greater line capacity. i use 2500's for braid and 8lb mono and i use 3000''s when using 10lb mono

I suggest you check out the new FJ series Stradic before you buy the Ci4, the Ci4 has thee old FI Stradic drivetrain, the New Stradic FJ is much smoother, I have both.

I can't imagine needing anything other than 2500 size reel for bass, unless you are looking to set up a spinning rod for frogging.

More about the rod than the reel for frogs, I agree that the 2500 reel is more than enough for bass. I don't see the need to jump up to the next sized spinning reel, line capacity and a stronger should be of no issue and most would frown using a heavier reel. If I were interested in ci4 and had plans of using the reel for larger species as well, then I'd pick the 4000, the extra 2 oz isn't much, most of my reels are heavier than 9.3 oz, to me that's light.

The rod is important, but you must consider the whole system - rod, reel, and line. The bigger spool works better with larger diameter lines. Froggin' generally calls for 50-65# braid, and with a diameter of 12-14# mono, the extra circumference helps manage line better. Throw in five more pounds of max drag, and it's a no brainer. I've set up several people with this alternative to casting gear, and the system works. Anything else bass related, a 2500 is plenty.

More about the rod than the reel for frogs, I agree that the 2500 reel is more than enough for bass. I don't see the need to jump up to the next sized spinning reel, line capacity and a stronger should be of no issue and most would frown using a heavier reel. If I were interested in ci4 and had plans of using the reel for larger species as well, then I'd pick the 4000, the extra 2 oz isn't much, most of my reels are heavier than 9.3 oz, to me that's light.

I'd agree with snook, the 2500 holds plenty of line and for any bigger species, the 4000 is welcome and gives you a stronger drag from 15# max on the 2500 to 20# max for the 4000, and believe me I have ran out of drag in the spring time fishing the Mighty Maumme river catching Walleye over 10 lbs. and Drum and Carp over 30, a flooded river adds to the fight in a hurry when your fishing rapids and downstream shallow raceways into deeper pools the fish head to.

I use 15# braid for frogs in Florida slop and it's on a supreme 35, bit less the max drag of the same sized stradic but more than ample to handle bass. I do not use a dedicated combo for frogs, I use the same med 8/17 rod. Prior to freshwater use this outfit was used for snook mainly in the surf. Not enough line to use in the inlet, current is way to strong and the fish are very strong too. Even my 4000 reels locked down won't stop fish. I ran after that permit in my avatar nearly 300 yds to avoid being spooled with the drag nearly locked down, technique is what lands fish, the reel is not the most important component, especially in bass fishing.

Bassn Blvd was with me the other day, I introduced to him to a guy that landed a 38# jack crevelle on a 50 year old rusted out Mitchell with a pos rod, he knew what he was doing. As Bassn is talking to the guy he then lands a 15-20# snook on that same outfit that I would't pay $2.00 for. Landing bigger fish is all about who is holding the rod and reel, not the gear itself.

come to Erie@ the Maumee river in the spring, think what you want, but when you are in the freezing white water of the LARGEST TRIBUTARY of all the great lakes. you don't run down sh@! people try it every year in a lot better shape that you snook. you can read about them in the obituaries. A bolder littered flooded river is a lot different than an inlet! I use a 2500 and a 4000 when the river can go up or down 8 to 10 feet, flow will put to shame a florida tide! If I can get em slowed enough to bring the in to a eddie or tangle up into some shorline brush I I have a chance with the bigger ones in high water. Been both places, the frozen flooded whitewater is a whole different animal.

thanks for all the advice i will probably go with the 2500 my only question is how is the size over all im not a big of really small reels thats why i went with the 35 xt just cause i liked the little bit larger size the 2500 just seemed to small for my liking and i only run 10# where i fish theres a lot of bad snags and rock and thats why i run something a little bit heavier but i regret ever jumping from shimano they imo are great reels and all the advice from you guys really helped out

or maybe the 3000 because my sahara was a 3000 and it was the perfect size

There is zero size difference in the body, diameter, and size of the spool. The only difference is that the spool is deeper on the 3000 to allow for greater line capacity.

come to Erie@ the Maumee river in the spring

Why? I'm catching great bass and other species in January wearing shorts and a t-shirt.

or maybe the 3000 because my sahara was a 3000 and it was the perfect size

The 3000 will hold plenty of 10# line like you want. The 4000 is still pretty light, just bigger.

i saw the 3000 holds 140 of 10# and i noticed with the pfluger the 2500 was a lot smaller and just felt weird when i said 4300 i meant the 3000 series that was a typo on my part but the one thing i did like about the supreme was the extra spool but since i usually only run co-polymer like p line im not to worried about the spare spool and im mostly using finesse techniques for mr smallmouth

The 3000 is the same size as the 2500, but with a deeper spool for more line.

thanks for the tip i gotta say kudos to this website there is so many helpful and knowledgeable people on this website and gave me so much help

for 10lb mono or fluoro the 3000 is better. if youre using braid or 6-8lb mono the 2500 is the way to go.

All you get with the 3000 size reel is 20 extra yards of line capacity. Otherwise it's the exact same reel. How much line do you need? 120 yards is plenty.

One small thing, the 3000 series has a larger knob. Forgot about that. Mine have custom cork knobs.

yeah i was looking it wont show any of the handles they say come with but i really like those custom grips

Just use google images, and type in the different models.