All rods could be had for the same price:dobyns savvy, denali rosewood and the kistler heliums. wondering if anyone has ever compared these or have expereince with them. thanks

Have you looked at Powell Max rods? They're 140, and by far the best rods for under 200. I wrote a review of them on here and are great rods. I also had a saavy, quickly sold it as I was unimpressed after all the hype they got on here. The only thing the saavy has going for it is it balances incredibly, but I found the sensitivity to leave me with some wanting as I felt it could have been much better. Have never owned a kistler or Denali but from everything I've heard kistlers are only worth about half their price tag.

+1 on the Powells. I own a Savvy and 3 Powells. The Powells are superior rods.

. Have never owned a kistler or Denali but from everything I've heard kistlers are only worth about half their price tag.

As some one who has owned Kistlers, that's about right, the Mag TS series would be fantastic $100-$125 rods, at there current price point, there is more bang for the buck elsewhere.