So Im looking for another rod and i want it to be versatile. I want something to flip pitch, and also work a frog. Right now these are my setups. 

 

7'2 shimano crucial 12-20 lure wt 1/4-1oz medium heavy extra fast- chronarch 200 e7 (worm and jig)

 

7'2 shimano crucial 12-25 lure wt 3/4 1 1/4 oz medium heavy extra fast -chronarch e7 (spinnerbait)

 

7'9 st croix 14-30 1-4 oz heavy  fast swimbait rod but currently attempting to use it to throw frogs and its not working to well. My e6 chronarch is on the st. croix, i have a cardiff 301a that usually sits on it. Im ready to put my cardiff back on the st croix, so therefore ill have my e6 with nothing for it to rest on. I love the crucial or any shimano rod due to the fact that they probably have the best warranty in the industry. 

 

What would you guys recommended? thanks for all your feedback guys!

 

 

I'm actually looking for a similar rod. I've been looking at the dobyns champion 735 and the st croix ltb slop-n-frog.

I've read a ton of great reviews on the dobyns, so I'm leaning towards that. I'd like to tryout the croix, but haven't been able to find anyone local that carries the rod.

Curtis I've been hearing a lot of great things about the Dobyns rods. I have actually really looked into them. Everyone says they are wonderful sticks.

I've used my Zillion Flip and Pitch for frogs and 3/4 oz. spinnerbaits.

Curtis I've been hearing a lot of great things about the Dobyns rods. I have actually really looked into them. Everyone says they are wonderful sticks.

I stopped in a shop over the weekend and got to handle this rod. It felt nice with a CI4 on it. I'd still like to try the croix for comparison

4 or 5 power Dobyns Champion or Champ Extreme

 

H power *** *** or ***

 

H power gen 1 Shimano Cumara (rare but pretty good)

 

Length is up to you. It also depends if you want full or split grips.

I may have to really consider a Dobyns.

Take this for what it's worth as I have no personal experience with the rod. But I've heard directly from someone who owns a retail/online tackle shop that the new Megabass Orochi XX Perfect Pitch rod would be very well suited for your needs. I've also read great feed ack on these rods on other forums. I know there is at least one member here with experience with these rods who is a big fan.

I'm looking to try a couple of them in the near future and the Perfect Pitch is one of them. Megabass is a well known and well regarded manufacturer. Only thing is their warranty/service plan is structured differently then Croix or Dobyns. I also am looking to try out some Dobyns. I have several Croix's and love them, but am just too curious to see what else is out there.

Good luck!

Dobyns is awesome. If you want a less expensive option, check out what Phenix has to offer with the m1 and recon or the powell endurance or max

I second the Phenix M1 line .. I have the swimbait rod but their entire M1 repetoir of blanks and rods are just awesome to see and feel..

Dobyns 765 or 735, but if you're going to be pitching into heavier cover and throwing frogs in thick stuff, possibly a 736. 

I am not sure of your budgeted amount for the rod but a look at megabass orochi xx line of rods would be wise. The perfect pitch would be ideal if you think you will be fishing very heavy cover using heavy weights. I have the EMTF rod and I would say the rod is money for baits up to 3/4 oz. It isn't as powerful as the perfect pitch but is possibly more well rounded. From weightless senkos, to small swimbaits, horny toads, football and swimjigs plus standard Texas rigs this rod really does a good job with all of them. Casting distance, sensitivity, and build quality is superb. I own 5 dobyns ... a few from each of the 3 lines and tend to reach for the EMTF over them in most cases. If the warranty was a bit longer they would be even more popular. Also it is really the only megabass line that online retailers will discount unless you find a Rep sample rod of another higher priced line. If you can wait til Black Friday you will find a steallar deal on one.

I use a Powell Max 735C rod for both the techniques you mentioned. It's a fantastic rod to me, so much so that I haven't even considered a different frog rod since I purchased it some 6 or 7 years ago. Powell lists a few techniques on their rod blanks as to what the rod is intended for or best at and the 735C has frogs, flipping, swimbaits, and wakebaits listed on it's blank. Like I said to me it's a great rod and absolutely perfect for frogs.  

 

This was my first ever Powell rod and I liked it so much I bought 4 more Max series rods. I know Dobyns gets a ton of talk on the forums and the Powell isn't mentioned by many but it is a really good stick for it's intended techniques.

I've been looking at the Dobyns phenix and honestly I would love the Powell 735 but I can't find it anywhere.

TW won't have the powell unto 12/26. Is it worth the wait? I'm going to look at the phenix today. Does anyone know there warranty? Dobyns has a lifetime no hassle warranty for 60 bucks a pop. Thanks for everyone's input you guys are great!

TW won't have the powell unto 12/26. Is it worth the wait? I'm going to look at the phenix today. Does anyone know there warranty? Dobyns has a lifetime no hassle warranty for 60 bucks a pop. Thanks for everyone's input you guys are great!

To me it's worth the wait because it's my favorite rod, for you though I can't say. I've never fished either a Phenix or Dobyns so I can't comment at all about either of them, all I have to go on is the very positive feedback I've read about both companies on the web. I'm not sure exactly how Powell's warranty works as I've never had a Powell break but I think I remember it being very similar to how Dobyns does theirs.

 

There are plenty of other online shops that carry Powell rods, surely there has to be a few who still have a 735 in stock. Which ever direction you go I wish you the best of luck and hope you're very happy with the rod you ultimately decide on.

War eagle thanks so much man! If you happen to find one send me a pm. Thanks again

Dobyns is awesome. If you want a less expensive option, check out what Phenix has to offer with the m1 and recon or the powell endurance or max

 

 

I just got my 3rd Phenix rod [X11 composite] and couldn't be happier...

I have 2 M1's, a spinning and a MH/F casting.

 

Check them out, Don't think you'll be sorry.

 

 

 

Mike

So Im looking for another rod and i want it to be versatile. I want something to flip pitch, and also work a frog. Right now these are my setups. 

 

7'2 shimano crucial 12-20 lure wt 1/4-1oz medium heavy extra fast- chronarch 200 e7 (worm and jig)

 

7'2 shimano crucial 12-25 lure wt 3/4 1 1/4 oz medium heavy extra fast -chronarch e7 (spinnerbait)

 

7'9 st croix 14-30 1-4 oz heavy  fast swimbait rod but currently attempting to use it to throw frogs and its not working to well. My e6 chronarch is on the st. croix, i have a cardiff 301a that usually sits on it. Im ready to put my cardiff back on the st croix, so therefore ill have my e6 with nothing for it to rest on. I love the crucial or any shimano rod due to the fact that they probably have the best warranty in the industry. 

 

What would you guys recommended? thanks for all your feedback guys!

 

Sometimes there could be situations where a flipping stick may not be the best for working a frog. There are times when you need to skip that frog under trees in a shade pocket or up under a dock and the tip of a flipping stick just isn't soft enough to help you make those casts. So I would think about what technique I do more if I was thinking of getting one rod? Now there are a lot of rods out there on the market so here are my suggestions. The Fenwick HMG Flipping Stick would be my choice for a flipping stick. This rod is very light weight and very sensitive.

Phenix has a lifetime warranty but you need to pay a replacement fee and shipping.. so I suggest really takin care of them as the warranty is essentially getting a discount on a new replacement.. but I am really impressed with their new M1 and recon 2s.  Picked the M1 over the Dobyns.

Personally I don't know what the big deal is with Dobyns they aint magic.. I see everyone recommending them like a fad or something.  Dont get me wrong they are good handlin rods but there are alot of great rods out there to choose from and guess what I used to catch fish as much as I do now in the past on Ugly sticks.  Yea yea bring on the snicker..

Take a look at Bobby Barrack Perfect frog rod Cara T7 by Falcon.

Tom

Ive been doing some heavy research and the new rod is ordered.......................... Powell 735c!!! thanks for all your suggestions guys. Trust me when i say when i saw what you recommended, I researched it. 

 

However i believe the powell was the right choice. Thanks for all your help. You guys are great

Here she is guys and gals!! aint she purttyyyy!!

Nice rod.. now go nail some fish and enjoy!

thanks buddy!