10lb Strenn Mono throwing top water frogs and other things in Lilly pads, thick ones too.

Someone tell me what makes that a bad idea for the mere sake of me comparing what I saw today. My frog would get stuck on a pad, I'd have to yank it and it'd cone flying back. needless to say, I now know why mono is bad for that.

What do y'all recommend?

Braid and only braid. If you're on spinning gear, 20-30#. Baitcaster 50-65#.  If you keep using mono, you'll be buying a lot of frogs.  The braid will cut through lily pad stalks and you don't want any stretch frog fishing. Once they inhale the frog and you set the hook, you want to keep that fish closest to the surface as possible. If you don't they'll take you under the abyss and wrap you around lily pad stalks and you're done for.

You need to use what YOU are most comfortable with. Everyone is different.

O am heavily considering going to braid on my 6'6 medium fast spinninng rod

You need to use what YOU are most comfortable with. Everyone is different.

 

I agree with this, so use whichever brand of 65# braid you are most comfortable with

O am heavily considering going to braid on my 6'6 medium fast spinninng rod

I don't fish Lilly pads often, and I bank fish but I kinda want to change line regardless for this rod

Well now that you spilled the beans on your rod....it would be advised to step up to a 7'+ MH or H, fast or extra fast tip rod. 6'6 Medium rod is pretty limber for fishing in pads. You will have a far better hook up ratio with something that has more backbone to it. braid should definitely help your cause. If you hook into a pig on that M' action rod, don't horse it or you will snap it like a twig.  Tight lines.

Are there any good, say....40.00 MH rods to buy? I recently bought a sojourn and its pretty good and that was right around that price.

I think a lot of guys claim the Berkley lightning rod is not a bad frog rod around that price point. Perhaps someone else might chime in on that price range for you.

 

My two frog rods are MH/F St Croix Mojos. When one of those dies I'll probably end up with a Dobyns 735c at some point. Or a sale I can't refuse 

Yeah, i've seen some stuff on the Berkley rods. What else can you throw on a "frog" rod? 

For me, mine are also used for throwing hollowbelly swimbaits (like a SK Shadalicous), Siebert Fogy (chatterbait), soft plastic buzzbaits (SK Rage Toad/Shad), or an occasional lighter jig. You should be able to find more use than just frogging.  MH/F rod is super versatile.

Which is better, per say. ..between medium heavy/medium heavy fast?

Medium, MH, Heavy, XH  describe the power of the blank.  Moderate/Fast/XF describe the taper (or tip) of the rod in which how far it bends down the blank.  So there is no difference to what you questioned.  You're more likely wanting to know the difference between a MH/F and a MH/XF in which the two have the same power blank, but different taper. That is more or less a preference. Power ratings vary between manufacturers as well.

 

A MH/F rod is going to be a more versatile tool in your arsenal. If you have many set ups, then perhaps you'd want the MH/XF to be a frog only rod. It all depends on you as the angler.

 

Search the forum for more in depth descriptions on power rating and rod taper.

Hey man, I appreciate this help beyond belief -- you can't even imagine haha

 

I honestly only throw a cavitron buzzbait, senko's, rage structure bugs-horny & rage toads, shakeyheads & a rare crankbait.

 

I got a 6'0" rod that i used for my senko's and stated using the heavier stuff for this but i'm hoping to bump up and get a rod to replace the 6'0". I just need to figure out what will go best with what rod 'cause I'm not sure what goes best with what lol 

I use a MH 6'6" bps graphite series spinning rod that cost $39. With an an Abu Garcia orra spinning reel spooled with 40 lb PP. I can cast hollow body frogs a ton and send bass up to 1.25 lb flying through the air.

Plenty of power and I'm very happy with this setup. Also can be used for spinner baits, buzz baits, weighted soft plastics and jigs. Although I use a more sensitive rog for my jig fishing. Tight lines.

Braid is the only way to fish a frog.

I hate braided line.

 

Braid is the only line i would even consider using for frogs.

That' what i'm thinking from now on

Sunline Fx2 0lb braid

30 lb braid for my spinning rod for skipping frogs under trees and 50lb on everything else.  I drag them through the muck and have no issues.

You can get a nice LEWS Spinning or casting rod on eBay.

I use mainly Excalibur silver thread copolymer line.

Topwater I use 12 to 14 lb test.

Crankbaits 8lb to 10lb test.

Carolina rig / worm rod 17lb test

JIG rod 17lb test.

Spinner bait 10lb / 14lb test

Inline spinners 8lb / 10lb test

Small plastics / spinners 6lb test.