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So I Just heard about this and is very disappointed.  Apparently they closed the King Salmon Fishing spot in Area 10 WA.  They closed it because some Indian tribe wanted the whole Salmon Fishery for themselves in area 10 so they said we couldn't fish there.  For WA citizens to fish in WA(including Indians) the WA Fishing Department has to agree with the Indians on fishing rights otherwise none of us can fish for King salmon in WA including the Columbia river.  We had it all agreed on and then right before the Due date the a Indian tribe said the we want all of area 10 for ourselves.  The WA fishing department had to give in otherwise there would be no King fishing in the whole state.  What do u guys think about this?

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Well, considering the WA Fishing Dept. declared open season on all warmwater fish on the Columbia - one of the best smallmouth fisheries in the country, and THE best walleye fishery in the country...all in the name of salmon - I don't have much sympathy.  They literally removed ALL fishing restrictions for warmwater species on the Columbia this year.

 

How would you feel if they did that to salmon?

So the state of WA considers the warm water species invasive and is trying to wipe them out?

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 a Indian tribe said the we want all of area 10 for ourselves. 

 

Source?  I thought the season was closed due to habitat, numbers, ect.  Nothing I'd seen suggested the Native Americans were forcing closure so they could fish it alone.  If you haven't already, I suggest reading up a bit on the history of why WA fishing rules are negotiated the way they are.  Many tribes ceded thousands (millions?) of acres under agreements that allow them a continuing right to the fisheries.  You may already be aware, but I know that when I lived there, many people had no clue about how we got where we are today.

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Source?  I thought the season was closed due to habitat, numbers, ect.  Nothing I'd seen suggested the Native Americans were forcing closure so they could fish it alone.  If you haven't already, I suggest reading up a bit on the history of why WA fishing rules are negotiated the way they are.  Many tribes ceded thousands (millions?) of acres under agreements that allow them a continuing right to the fisheries.  You may already be aware, but I know that when I lived there, many people had no clue about how we got where we are today.

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/unsworth-takes-radio-explain-area-10-king-closure/ Hope this helps

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Source?  I thought the season was closed due to habitat, numbers, ect.  Nothing I'd seen suggested the Native Americans were forcing closure so they could fish it alone.  If you haven't already, I suggest reading up a bit on the history of why WA fishing rules are negotiated the way they are.  Many tribes ceded thousands (millions?) of acres under agreements that allow them a continuing right to the fisheries.  You may already be aware, but I know that when I lived there, many people had no clue about how we got where we are today.

This is a very long article so I decided to give you some facts that I promise was from the exact text.

 

-"Asked point blank on The Outdoor Line why, if state data showed that the closure wasn’t needed to protect wild fish and that modeling indicated it would save all of nine of them, WDFW yielded to tribal comanagers’ desire to close it, Unsworth said, “I think the ultimate reason was, we were at such loggerheads that it looked like we were not going to get an agreement, and that would have put us in uncharted waters about how to have a fishery at all.”

-http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/unsworth-takes-radio-explain-area-10-king-closure/ 

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So the state of WA considers the warm water species invasive and is trying to wipe them out?

 

You're spot on.

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Well, considering the WA Fishing Dept. declared open season on all warmwater fish on the Columbia - one of the best smallmouth fisheries in the country, and THE best walleye fishery in the country...all in the name of salmon - I don't have much sympathy.  They literally removed ALL fishing restrictions for warmwater species on the Columbia this year.

 

How would you feel if they did that to salmon?

Most of the salmon only come seasonally so that would not affect me too bad..  It would actually help me a lot because than I could actually go fishing for them.  lol 

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Lived out in Oregon for sixty years....did not like or agree to most of the slime rocket (cold water fish) mentality.  Do believe that the Indians do a ton of stocking in Washington so this too may give them some clout.  Columbia was an amazing river for smallies....amazing.  Remember tourists on the Columbia buying fresh salmon/steelhead out of trunks of cars at the boat ramps....yummmmm (no coolers or ice).....fresh that had been netted  and sitting in 90 plus degree heat.  You haven't lived until you've been going down the Columbia in high winds and there's a free floating net(not supposed to be) coming down the river and it gets in your prop.....yes ... your going to get wet.

Like Crystal Gayle used to sing on advertisements.....Come to Tennessee....we're singing your song.  I did...I love it.

Hope gets better

  • Super User

So the state of WA considers the warm water species invasive and is trying to wipe them out?

 

Sadly they do, though it's not as bad as in Western Colorado where there are active and hugely unpopular programs to attempt to wipe out warm water fish in the name of, get ready for this, suckers, squawfish, and chubs.

 

Western fishery managers are the WORST. They value trash fish and salmonids above all else.

  • Super User

Well, considering the WA Fishing Dept. declared open season on all warmwater fish on the Columbia - one of the best smallmouth fisheries in the country, and THE best walleye fishery in the country...all in the name of salmon - I don't have much sympathy.  They literally removed ALL fishing restrictions for warmwater species on the Columbia this year.

 

How would you feel if they did that to salmon?

 

Did they remove the bag limits on the Columbia? That has happened on all Western Colorado rivers because they don't want any competition for native suckers, chubs, and squawfish. It hasn't reduced numbers in our rivers, even though we have active "removal" programs for bass, catfish, walleye, and pike. And considering the Columbia is HUGE, four times of volume of the Colorado River (which is a very large river as well), I don't think it will ever seriously reduce numbers. Anglers won't cooperate, because too many don't here. Dams and water development are the reason for declines in native fish, but environmentalists team with water users to put the blame where it really doesn't belong, nonnative fish. The "science" doesn't have a leg to stand on, but since it's funded by big money from water lobbyists and the eco - left, it is allowed to stand.

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