Would tying a rapala knot/non-slip loop knot ON TO a split ring give any advantages for crankin'? Or is the loop and split ring both too much? What about jerk baits.. loop knot or improved clinch?

I personally tie a San Diego Jam for all my cranks/jerks.  

I personally tie a San Diego Jam for all my cranks/jerks.

Thanks for your input! The San diego jam is great. I read somewhere that a loop knot gave the crankbait more action and let it act more freely. However, whether or not a split ring was involved was not mentioned

I don't think you need both a loop and a split ring.

I use snaps for both. And tie a SDJ

Mike

I tie a palomar knot to a snap only. Gives both jerk baits & crank baits better action.

I tie a palomar or SDJ to a split ring.  I suppose you could use a loop knot but I would use only a loop knot, no split ring or snap.  Same goes for a snap, I would use only a snap, no split ring.

I don't think you need both a loop and a split ring.

That's what I figured

If it has a split ring, you don't need a loop. I prefer Palomar, but if the lure is too big to wrap with the overhand loop, I'll use an improved clinch.

Loop could get pinched in split ring - one or the other.

I think if it has a split ring you don't need both. I'd pick one or the other. I use a palomar knot on mine. 

I use an improved clinch knot as well. I would say the same thing about the loop and the slip ring.

I use snaps for both. And tie a SDJ

Mike

I was always told to hard tie the line to the bait cause the swivel might "scare the fish" or it wasn't strong enough. Everything has a purpose I suppose!

I was always told to hard tie the line to the bait cause the swivel might "scare the fish" or it wasn't strong enough. Everything has a purpose I suppose!

Scare the fish?

That's news too me, I've never heard that before.

I guess maybe it could happen, noone will ever know for sure but...

The only real problem I see, and I'm not a crank expert by any means, is the real chance of the knot being frayed, weakened or cut by the junction of the 2 end's of the snap or split ring if not useing a snap, if the knot is tied between the 2.

Mike

Scare the fish?

That's news too me, I've never heard that before.

I guess maybe it could happen, noone will ever know for sure but...

The only real problem I see, and I'm not a crank expert by any means, is the real chance of the knot being frayed, weakened or cut by the junction of the 2 end's of the snap or split ring if not useing a snap, if the knot is tied between the 2.

Mike

So maybe it'd be better just to remove the split ring and tie direct using a loop knot? Or even remove the split ring and use a snap swivel

So maybe it'd be better just to remove the split ring and tie direct using a loop knot? Or even remove the split ring and use a snap swivel

 

 

Not a snap swivel just use a simple crosslock snap. Never use a swivel unless your trying to alleviate line twist at the lure.

Not a snap swivel just use a simple crosslock snap. Never use a swivel unless your trying to alleviate line twist at the lure.

dually noted! never heard of that before so i assumed swivel

Thats an option of course, but I personally won't use a swivel.

A snap or loop knot tied direct in my opinion are the 2 best ways.

Mike