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Usually whatever is handy. Masking tape or the blue painter's tape is best for double foot guides, scotch tape is so-so. If it's single foot guides I usually just hold them in place, but a thin strip of masking tape works too. I've heard the little twist ties that come with trashbags are great for big single foot guides, but I've never tried it personally.

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I like the little rubber bands used for braces, but they don't work well on small diameter blanks. I've heard of guys using everything from twist ties to guide foot glue, but the best idea I've heard of is small pieces of heat shrink tubing. It holds well enough to do a static test and there's no glue residue left behind or chance of scratching the blank with a twist tie.

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Orthodontist bands get my vote too. I buy the 1/8" and use a combination of 1/8" masking tape if the blank has a small diameter or towards the tip.

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Orthodontist bands get my vote too. I buy the 1/8" and use a combination of 1/8" masking tape if the blank has a small diameter or towards the tip.

Orthodontist bands get my vote too. I buy the 1/8" and use a combination of 1/8" masking tape if the blank has a small diameter or towards the tip.

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Found them

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Orthodontic-Rubber-Bands-4-Hair-Brace-1-8-6-5-oz-/200615609644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb59f452c

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The small size tape and bands really help with micro guides. For larger guides you can step up the size if you want.

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You can make your own bands by slicing surgical tubing. Double it over to make the tip guides tighter. I also use elastic thread. Tie them snug above where the guide will rest and slide it down into place.

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I use elastic thread. Cheap at Walmart, and good for any size guide or blank.

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Size 0 surgical tubing cut into small bands.

 

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Seems everyone has a personal preference, so you'll have to get yours.  I've tried everything already mentioned, and by far, the best bet for me is surgical tubing for the sections of the blank that are small enough.  For the bigger guides masking tape is ok, but make sure you don't get any residue.  Blue tape, in my opinion, isn't sticky enough.  I've never found dental bands very effective, but it is obvious that some do.  Maybe I had the wrong sizes.  They are not slippery, so I expect size is the key.  My problem with the flexible thread is that it is too slippery to hold well, although I have used it effectively on two foot guides on the bigger sections of rods.  I don't like the glue as it leaves a chunk of glue under the foot and isn't adjustable for position.

 

The surgical tubing of the right size will hold guides strongly enough to test cast and allow easy moving up and down the blank. (Be very careful not to scratch the blank when moving guides-best to take the guide off, move the tubing, then put the guide back in)  The flexible thread would be ideal if it were less slippery (for the bigger guides/larger sections where surgical tubing breaks).

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I have not tried surgical tubing but I have found that hot glue works well. I heat up the foot and run it across the glue stick. Just stick and when you are done wrapping adjust as needed.

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As you can see from the responses, there is no right or wrong way. You'll find that is pretty much the case across the board for rod building...once you get a few rods under your belt you'll start to find different things that work for you. Some guys wrap rods using a cardboard box, some folks have a powerwrapper, and personally I free hand with just a fly tying bobbin...been doing it that way since my 3rd or 4th rod. Don't feel like you are stuck with one technique or one way to do something if there is another way that works better for you.

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