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Owner Twistlock vs Do-IT Mustad Hooks

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OK, I'm really liking the rigging ease of the Owner Twistlock hooks, but not so fond of the price per hook.  So my cheapskate mind is thinking of using the CPS keeper and possibly another hook.  The Do-it Mustad Casting Swim Jig 32886BLN and Do-it Mustad Flipping 91768BLN have drawn my attention as possible replacements.  I know these are designed for making jigs but wondered how they compare in shape and size to the Owner Twislock hooks.  Unfortunately there is not a retail store near me that sells the Do-It Jig hooks so I don't have the ability to look at them myself.  Does anyone here have both and can compare them?  Or, have you even done this same thing with using these jig hooks for another purpose? 

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20 minutes ago, EvanT123 said:

I had the same question awhile back. 

 

Thanks, I saw this post when I did a search.  I just questioned the swim jig hook gap vs the flipping jig hook gap for rigging craws.  Thoughts? 

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It depends on which Owner Twist lock you are referring too. I use the Twist Lock Light but there is also the Twist Lock Finesse, the twist lock flipping and the twist lock beast hook. I also have quite a few different 30 degree hooks as well as 60 degree for making jigs and I can give you the equivalent hook if I know which twist lock you were talking about since all of them are different.

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According to a warehouse review, that is what they are using those hooks for. The shape of the hook is correct, however the sharpness of the point will not be in my opinion.

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Both of those hooks will be close to the Owner Flipping hook.  The main difference is the point and Mustad is a thicker wire since the Owner is the Zo wire.  For the 91768BLN its a widegap so it will just have a wider gap like the swim bait hooks.  What you are wanting to do many guys do it.  I use a lot of the Owner Deep Throat hooks with spring coils on them.  If you need some of those hooks pm me.  I have a bunch of them I'd sell.  I also have the Owner centering pin and some other types of coils.

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You can buy Owner twist lock centering pin springs in packages of 8 for a little over $3 and put them on your hook of choice.

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Thanks everyone.  I appreciate everyone's thoughts and help.  the open gap is the one that I've used the most but the light is also one I like.  

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Seibert Outdoors is correct, the Mustad 32886 is a 30 degree hook like the Owner Twist Lock open gap but Owner uses their Zo-wire to make the hook as strong as a heavy hook while the wire diameter is a lot thinner. The points are also different, Owner has a cutting point on their Twist Lock hooks, Mustad uses the Ultra point which is a type of needle point, the difference is the cutting point has a point and a cutting edge like a knife blade, the needle point is like a sewing needle, a single sharp point. The cutting points make for easier penetration through plastic baits with the downside being they can cut a large hole in the mouth of the fish which can lead to the hook falling out should any slack get in the line. The needle point doesn't have the problem of a cutting point but a lighter hook set may not get full penetration and you fail to hook the fish, both have advantages and disadvantages.

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The 32886 BLN swim jig hook is a good substitute for the twistlock flipping hook. 

The Mustad has a longer distance between the hook eye and the first bend, to accommodate the lead head when used in a jig mold.  This offsets the line tie a bit further from the hook shank, reducing the ‘bite’ of the hook.  The actual gap of the hook between the point and shank is also slightly smaller on the Mustad.

The Owner and Mustad are both needle points - none of the twistlock varieties I've seen from Owner use their cutting point. The difference in wire diameter isn’t drastic, at least to my eye.  Both are sharp, both are strong.  The Owner seems a bit sharper, but the point on the Mustad is a bit more durable.  I’ve used both extensively with no problems.

It’s worth “springing” (;)) for the CPS springs IMO, they are the easiest to rig and most compact.  I don’t like how the corkscrew on others sits so far from the hook eye, to accommodate the “clip.”

First picture: Owner Twistlock on top, Mustad on bottom (these are 4/0 hooks)

Second picture: Mustad on top to show difference in gap

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You guys Rock.  This is the exact information I was looking for and the pictures from fissure_man are awesome as the visual comparison really helps me.  Great info on the difference in wire and points. 

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