Read an article written by Ike about his recent trip to Japan (October, '16).  He returned with a new technique and setup, referred to as 'Punch shot'.  I would liken it to a drop shot on steroids with a Texas rig.  Since I have moved toward DS and Power DS as my 'go to', I was intrigued.  While trying to figure out the components, I came across (google, yes) a 2012 ICast video on a Jika rig.  My untrained and novice eye is not seeing much of a difference.  Looking for some knowledge.....Thanks, as always.

 

Tom

6 minutes ago, WSOzzie said:

Read an article written by Ike about his recent trip to Japan (October, '16).  He returned with a new technique and setup, referred to as 'Punch shot'.  I would liken it to a drop shot on steroids with a Texas rig.  Since I have moved toward DS and Power DS as my 'go to', I was intrigued.  While trying to figure out the components, I came across (google, yes) a 2012 ICast video on a Jika rig.  My untrained and novice eye is not seeing much of a difference.  Looking for some knowledge.....Thanks, as always.

 

Tom

 

This should help.

 

Reminds me of my homemade jika punch rigs.

 

In general, the jika rig is meant to pull the bait straight down through weed cover with the long weight first, and the bait free behind it, unlike a pegged Texas rig that drags and drapes the line over the weed cover.  In general, I find I can use less weight with a jika rig than a traditional or pegged Texas rig.  For punching, I find an ounce or once-and-a-half plenty to get through the worst slop, whereas punch rigs can be north of two ounces.  There is definitely a different action to the bait as well.

 

I wouldn't exactly liken it to a drop shot, though superficially it might look like something similar.  A drop shot holds the bait in the water column, hovering in place off the bottom.

 

Here's a pic of my homemade jika punch rigs.  They work.  I like any slender craw style bait, Rage Craws and Lobsters being my favorites.

 

53 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Reminds me of my homemade jika punch rigs.

 

In general, the jika rig is meant to pull the bait straight down through weed cover with the long weight first, and the bait free behind it, unlike a pegged Texas rig that drags and drapes the line over the weed cover.  In general, I find I can use less weight with a jika rig than a traditional or pegged Texas rig.  For punching, I find an ounce or once-and-a-half plenty to get through the worst slop, whereas punch rigs can be north of two ounces.  There is definitely a different action to the bait as well.

 

I wouldn't exactly liken it to a drop shot, though superficially it might look like something similar.  A drop shot holds the bait in the water column, hovering in place off the bottom.

 

Here's a pic of my homemade jika punch rigs.  They work.  I like any slender craw style bait, Rage Craws and Lobsters being my favorites.

 

 

Not to hijack this thread what is the difference between the jika rig and a wobblehead jig? Just how it's fished?

1 hour ago, Fishin' Fool said:

 

This should help.

 

Thank you for the link.  Very good stuff.

I'm thinking the 'punch shot' that Ike brought back from Japan is a modified Jika Rig.  Particulars in rod, reel and line?

On 1/17/2017 at 4:57 PM, Fishin' Fool said:

 

Not to hijack this thread what is the difference between the jika rig and a wobblehead jig? Just how it's fished?

 

Missed this.  I fish the heavy Jika rig the same as a punch rig.  Drop in a spot, jiggle, wait.  No bite, get it out of there, and on to the next spot.  The more traditional Jika rig replaces a standard Texas rigged plastic, with a sliding weight.   The skinny weight penetrates weeds better than a bulky wobble head.  Now if you're dealing with rocks, and snaggy territory, then the wobble head is a better tool.

On 1/17/2017 at 4:01 PM, J Francho said:

Reminds me of my homemade jika punch rigs.

 

In general, the jika rig is meant to pull the bait straight down through weed cover with the long weight first, and the bait free behind it, unlike a pegged Texas rig that drags and drapes the line over the weed cover.  In general, I find I can use less weight with a jika rig than a traditional or pegged Texas rig.  For punching, I find an ounce or once-and-a-half plenty to get through the worst slop, whereas punch rigs can be north of two ounces.  There is definitely a different action to the bait as well.

 

I wouldn't exactly liken it to a drop shot, though superficially it might look like something similar.  A drop shot holds the bait in the water column, hovering in place off the bottom.

 

Here's a pic of my homemade jika punch rigs.  They work.  I like any slender craw style bait, Rage Craws and Lobsters being my favorites.

 

 

Question, why do you use EWG hooks for this?

 

Just wondering is all 

Those are Owner Riggin' Hooks, and are appropriate for the baits I use.  They a nice option for creature baits.

 

J franco would you mind telling me via pm what hardware you use for those rigs? Jika rig is probably my most used presentation and have been wanting to make my own. Thanks

Ps try your rig with a yum crawbug

Owner has this rig for several years now called the Jig-Rig with weights from 1/8 to 1 oz, lead or tungsten. Guess Ike is just now finding a way to promote it under his name.

Tom

On 6/16/2017 at 10:13 PM, d-camarena said:

J franco would you mind telling me via pm what hardware you use for those rigs? Jika rig is probably my most used presentation and have been wanting to make my own. Thanks

Ps try your rig with a yum crawbug

 

It's a trolling sinker, Owner Riggin' Hook, Hyperwire split ring, small Eagle Claw oval split ring.  Hook goes on the main split ring.  Oval split ring goes on the weight and attaches to the main split ring.  Craw Bugs are an ideal bait for this.  Some baits don't punch well, when traditionally rigged.  This rig will get them down.

 

On 6/16/2017 at 10:43 PM, WRB said:

Owner has this rig for several years now called the Jig-Rig with weights from 1/8 to 1 oz, lead or tungsten. Guess Ike is just now finding a way to promote it under his name.

Tom

 

They come in 3/16 and 1/4 oz.  Nothing as heavy as what I make myself.

2 hours ago, J Francho said:

 

It's a trolling sinker, Owner Riggin' Hook, Hyperwire split ring, small Eagle Claw oval split ring.  Hook goes on the main split ring.  Oval split ring goes on the weight and attaches to the main split ring.  Craw Bugs are an ideal bait for this.  Some baits don't punch well, when traditionally rigged.  This rig will get them down.

 

 

They come in 3/16 and 1/4 oz.  Nothing as heavy as what I make myself.

Look at 5182 hook + 5120 weight to 1 oz.

Tom

Those are not pre-rigged.  The components are way too expensive.  And the centering pin with that hook has a poor hookup rate for me, not a wide enough gap.  It also adds too much hardware to the main split ring.  That's how I got to the setup I pictured above.  Pencil style trolling weights aren't too hard to find, I got mine at Field & Stream.  The rest of the hardware I ordered online.

12 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Those are not pre-rigged.  The components are way too expensive.  And the centering pin with that hook has a poor hookup rate for me, not a wide enough gap.  It also adds too much hardware to the main split ring.  That's how I got to the setup I pictured above.  Pencil style trolling weights aren't too hard to find, I got mine at Field & Stream.  The rest of the hardware I ordered online.

The 5120 hook doesn't have a centering spring, the 5199 has the spring. Yes Owners weight components are pricey compared to buying in bulk. My is Owner makes the JigRig in up to 1 oz (some assembly required) off the shelf for several years now.

Tom

 

Gotcha, thanks Tom.  Yeah, I've been making them my own since I first tried the Jig Rig when it was new.  I couldn't locate anything heavier, and through much trial and error, came up with the rig pictured. If I recall, the expense added up to around $1 or so a rig.  You rarely lose them. I made a couple dozen up, and I still have a bunch.  If you like the Owner weights, go for it.  They are streamlines, but that doesn't seem to matter in use.

On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 10:43 PM, WRB said:

Owner has this rig for several years now called the Jig-Rig with weights from 1/8 to 1 oz, lead or tungsten. Guess Ike is just now finding a way to promote it under his name.

Tom

 

To be fair, Ike's article is about a slightly different rig where the weight is dangled on a wire a short distance below the hook.  He didn't claim it as his own invention, and though he made his version with VMC components, it's not a rig that VMC (or Owner) specifically produces or markets in North America AFAIK.  Article:  "If you want to give this thing a try, you can get the parts for it from VMC or from any lure parts store — online or brick-and-mortar."

 

@d-camarena a few other ideas:

 

Hooks:

 

Gamakatsu Ringed EWG hooks are an option for heavy duty Jika use, as I have a (probably irrational) distrust of braid knots tied to split rings. 

 

For a regular/lighter wire hook the VMC xl wide gap worm hook (6319) is good because it gives a bit of extra room above the bend to rig the nose of your bait without crowding the split ring.  Good price too.

 

Weights:

 

Danielson quick-change walking sinkers don't need an extra split ring and are dirt cheap.  Northland roach rig sinkers are similar and come in a few colors if you’re into that.  Not a traditional Jika application, but I like these in deep water ‘dragging’ scenarios for smallmouth, paired with goby or craw imitators.

 

I made pencil weights like J.Francho’s by screwing in open-eye crankbait hook hangers to these weights.  Hang the open eye into the ring on a Gama. ringed hook, close it with pliers, good to go.