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Tangled braid on 1st guide

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Has anyone had this problem?

 

I am using 10 lb J Braid with an 8 lb leader and using the double Albright knot.  The knot is great, and slim, and I cut the tag ends as close as possible.  The problem is that when I cast I will often get a tangle on the first guide at the braid/leader knot.  The knot wraps around the guide thus killing the cast.  It has happened with other braids but it seems worse with the lighter J Braid opposed to the 15 and 20 lb 832 and Power Pro that I have used.  

 

Any thoughts?  

  • Super User

That is from line twist.  Despite all the hype that braid doesn't twist, it does.  What you're seeing is often referred to as a "wind knot."  The solution is to clip off the terminal rig or lure, and let out a cast or so worth of line.  Troll for a couple hundred yards or so, and reel back in under tension.

  • Super User

Agreed....and it is far more likely with very fine braid, like 10#.  It doesn't take much twist plus breeze to create a very small loop of braid that snags bumps your leader knot and sends line wrapping around a guide....at least that's what seems to happen on mine.  You're right that keeping that knot small and tag-free will help a lot, but you're still going to get twist that is much more likely to loop with thread-like 10# braid

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