I have really been in a quandry regarding whether to buy the briggs outboard electric or go with two 101 minn kotas..I got the cabelas in today and saw this..I have studied the one minnkota makes but could not figure out how to make it work without outboard..

If you are looking for electric only check out the RAY electric motors probably one of the best bangs for the bucks.

TD

For $1600 it better be good. It looks like it will push pretty good at 82lbs of thrust on each motor. You will still need a front motor to steer it.

What has me interested it is running on 24 volts..So two batteries instead of 6 for the two 101 and 4 for the briggs..and i just spent 700 on the new 101 if I buy two that is 1400.00//I saw were yamaha has a 9.9 electric but it around 7000gs...And the ray for around 5 gs is ridiculous to me..

The thing you need to find out is how many total amps it draws from your batteries. You may only get half the runtime of one 24V 80lb motor.

It uses Motorguide 82lb motors. So if I do the math it would be like running your two 80's on just two batteries instead of four. At this point the math doesn't look good.

You can't get blood from a stone.  Your trolling speed and time is primarily a function of total battery capacity and secondly a function of the motor efficiency.  While modern motors are better designed and more efficient than older ones we are not talking big numbers.  And while 24 volts, or 36 volts yields more efficient motors, again we are talking incremental percentages.  All these factors combined are not going to increase the efficiency by more that 50% which is what you would need before you can eliminate a battery to get the SAME trolling speed/time.

If your present battery capacity is doing the job then an efficient motor will do it a little better but you will still need the batteries.  If your present batteries are inadequate, then $$$ spent on more efficient motors will help a little but not dramatically and certainly not enough to allow eliminating batteries.

Depending on your trolling/motoring ratio, a charger for the 12, 24 or 36 voltage trolling battery that works off the 12 volt alternator in your outboard is the best way of extending trolling time.  Many of our customers report returning to the trailer with a fully charged trolling battery, ready to go again the next day with no overnight charging.  This is the most economical way to get the best return on your dollar for extending trolling capacity.

You can't get blood from a stone. Your trolling speed and time is primarily a function of total battery capacity and secondly a function of the motor efficiency. While modern motors are better designed and more efficient than older ones we are not talking big numbers. And while 24 volts, or 36 volts yields more efficient motors, again we are talking incremental percentages. All these factors combined are not going to increase the efficiency by more that 50% which is what you would need before you can eliminate a battery to get the SAME trolling speed/time.

If your present battery capacity is doing the job then an efficient motor will do it a little better but you will still need the batteries. If your present batteries are inadequate, then $$$ spent on more efficient motors will help a little but not dramatically and certainly not enough to allow eliminating batteries.

Depending on your trolling/motoring ratio, a charger for the 12, 24 or 36 voltage trolling battery that works off the 12 volt alternator in your outboard is the best way of extending trolling time. Many of our customers report returning to the trailer with a fully charged trolling battery, ready to go again the next day with no overnight charging. This is the most economical way to get the best return on your dollar for extending trolling capacity.

Well put Ann-Marie. But unfortunately that won't work for Buzzbaitfool12. He is running an all electric boat with no outboard motor. So batteries is all he has. lol

A friend of mine has put together two all electric boats. One was a 16 foot Bass Tracker with a MinnKota Edrive electric outboard motor. It is a 2 HP motor. It is a 48V system and will push the boat to a top speed of 5.1 MPH GPS for two hours full speed. He sold it to a friend and built a second boat that is a 16 foot pan fish Bass Tracker with the Briggs and Straton electric outboard. That boat would go 6.3 MPH GPS for about two hours full speed. The only guy in the electric boat club that could come close had a 16 foot alumacraft with 3 101 lb thrust MinnKotas on the back. He used his front trolling motor to steer. He would go about 6.2 MPH GPS.

The Edrive had less thrust but it has nicer controls and tilt and trim. It doesn't get clogged up with weeds too bad.

The Briggs has awkward controls, no tilt and trim and a thrust ring around the prop that catches weeds all the time.

If I was going to pick one, I would pick the Edrive. Everywhere that we take the boats people always stop us and ask about the motors.

Depending on your trolling/motoring ratio, a charger for the 12, 24 or 36 voltage trolling battery that works off the 12 volt alternator in your outboard is the best way of extending trolling time. Many of our customers report returning to the trailer with a fully charged trolling battery, ready to go again the next day with no overnight charging. This is the most economical way to get the best return on your dollar for extending trolling capacity.

what types of boats and setups do your customers have?

thank

A friend of mine has put together two all electric boats. One was a 16 foot Bass Tracker with a MinnKota Edrive electric outboard motor. It is a 2 HP motor. It is a 48V system and will push the boat to a top speed of 5.1 MPH GPS for two hours full speed. He sold it to a friend and built a second boat that is a 16 foot pan fish Bass Tracker with the Briggs and Straton electric outboard. That boat would go 6.3 MPH GPS for about two hours full speed. The only guy in the electric boat club that could come close had a 16 foot alumacraft with 3 101 lb thrust MinnKotas on the back. He used his front trolling motor to steer. He would go about 6.2 MPH GPS.

do you recall what type of boat he had?  also how many people and gear he was carrying?

thanks

Bussbaitfool12, looking at the photo of the Lenco motors, it appears you have to drill 10 holes in your transom for each motor and 7 of them are below the water line.  In a fiberglass boat you can fill the holes and spread some gelcoat over them if you take the motors off.  Unless you are real good with gelcoat it will look like a patch.  I assume  you are putting them on an aluminum boat so you should consider how you will patch the lower holes if you ever change your setup.  I guess you could use a machine screw and rubber washer but it will still look bad.  

 

T_Dot

Boat 1

Edrive

16 foot Bass Tracker single console modified v hull aluminum boat

2 people

Tackle and rods for a tournament

Boat 2

16 foot Bass Tracker Panfish modified v hull aluminum boat

2 people

Tackle and rods for a tournament

Boat 3

16 foot Alumacraft single console (removed) modified v hull aluminum boat

2 people

Tackle and rods for a tournament

If you were going to use something like that maybe something like this would be better. You can get the 160# for 979.99!! Thats way better than buying 2 80#s seperatly or the lenco trollin tabs. Sure it would require a little fab work to mount them, but that enables you to mount them exactly how you need them. Mount them on a piece of aluminum plate and mount the plate to the boat. That would probably cost you less than $50 in materials. If you wanted to get crazy you could probably configure some sort of cable steering system for it too.  Just needs a pivot and a mechanical means of movement. Something like this. Good luck with your project.

Yes we thought about those before but just dont know what to mount on..My 101 came in today..May just buy one more..

Yes we thought about those before but just dont know what to mount on..My 101 came in today..May just buy one more..

have you tested out the 101 yet?

if so, how fast are you going just on that motor alone?

thanks

Those trolling motor tabs look interesting.  i still feel that someone needs to invent a more efficient trolling motor design.