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I noticed the new Orochi Braillist and read the specs/description.  Am looking for a rod to drag 3/4oz SK Jointed Structure Heads/trailer or similar... along the bottom over gravel rock piles in 18-24 fow.  

 

Wondering if this rod would work well for this application - I tend to hesitate to buy something new and unknown, although the Orochi model has been around.  Or, wondering what it might compare to?

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It’s a brand new model of a new generation of the Orochi XX rods. About the only hands on info out there on them is the preview on TackleTour. Will be awhile before anyone has the hands on experience to answer your question unfortunately. 

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15 hours ago, FryDog62 said:

I noticed the new Orochi Braillist and read the specs/description.  Am looking for a rod to drag 3/4oz SK Jointed Structure Heads/trailer or similar... along the bottom over gravel rock piles in 18-24 fow.  

 

Wondering if this rod would work well for this application - I tend to hesitate to buy something new and unknown, although the Orochi model has been around.  Or, wondering what it might compare to?

Not enough rod for 3/4oz plus trailer. You’re pushing 1oz plus at that point. Perfect Pitch would be what you want. The og PP is an amazing rod. If they improved on it as claimed then it should make one sweet stick. 

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8 hours ago, rippin-lips said:

Not enough rod for 3/4oz plus trailer. You’re pushing 1oz plus at that point. Perfect Pitch would be what you want. The og PP is an amazing rod. If they improved on it as claimed then it should make one sweet stick. 

Yes I think it’s a border line weight between MH and Heavy.  

 

Have also thought of maybe buying 2 rods - one Braillist for 1/2 oz and a Perfect Pitch for heavier.  A lot of money though... what do you know about the Levante Perfect Pitch and would it be a big step down from the Orochi version?  

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I love the original EMTF for 3/8 to 1/2 oz swingheads, so I'm interested in seeing how the Braillist turns out....But I think you'll want at least an F6 in MB rods to handle anything 3/4. 

 

The swinghead technique is more similar to cranking than flipping/pitching and it's generally done in open water, so you can get away with less powerful rods for the head weights.  IE, I wouldn't use an EMTF for flipping or pitching 3/8 and 1/2 oz jigs...But its darn near perfect for the same weight swingheads.  I still think 3/4 will overpower the F5.5 Braillist though.

 

The Perfect Pitch would do it well, although I prefer a longer rod for this technique.  I've used it for heavier swingheads and it does fine, but I usually throw them on an X4 711 instead.  In the current MB lineup, the Destroyer Valdiva looks like the best fit...But I haven't used it so I can't say for sure, it looks good on paper though.  

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2 hours ago, Logan S said:

I love the original EMTF for 3/8 to 1/2 oz swingheads, so I'm interested in seeing how the Braillist turns out....But I think you'll want at least an F6 in MB rods to handle anything 3/4. 

 

The swinghead technique is more similar to cranking than flipping/pitching and it's generally done in open water, so you can get away with less powerful rods for the head weights.  IE, I wouldn't use an EMTF for flipping or pitching 3/8 and 1/2 oz jigs...But its darn near perfect for the same weight swingheads.  I still think 3/4 will overpower the F5.5 Braillist though.

 

The Perfect Pitch would do it well, although I prefer a longer rod for this technique.  I've used it for heavier swingheads and it does fine, but I usually throw them on an X4 711 instead.  In the current MB lineup, the Destroyer Valdiva looks like the best fit...But I haven't used it so I can't say for sure, it looks good on paper though.  

Thanks.  Any opinion on Perfect Pitch in the Levante lineup?  Subtle or big difference to Orochi?  

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13 hours ago, rippin-lips said:

Not enough rod for 3/4oz plus trailer. You’re pushing 1oz plus at that point. Perfect Pitch would be what you want. The og PP is an amazing rod. If they improved on it as claimed then it should make one sweet stick. 

I think the old pp has a lot higher rating and i was looking at the new one.  Says 1.2 oz and i thought the old had a 2oz top end.  Is it a weaker rod???  Wish companies used CCS data to help us compare...

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53 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

Thanks.  Any opinion on Perfect Pitch in the Levante lineup?  Subtle or big difference to Orochi?  

I haven't used the Levante Perfect Pitch to compare to the XX version...But I have the Levante Shakeyhead and the XX Shakeyhead.  There is a very noticeable difference and the XX is definitely worth the price to upgrade.  The Levante is a nice rod on it's own, but you can't really compare it to the XX.  It doesn't blow you away when compared to other rods in it's price range like the XX does.  

 

It just doesn't really stand out from it's competitors.  I'm not planning on getting rid of mine, but I also don't plan on adding any more.  Having said that, the current sale price of $170 does make them more attractive.  

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6 hours ago, FryDog62 said:

Yes I think it’s a border line weight between MH and Heavy.  

 

Have also thought of maybe buying 2 rods - one Braillist for 1/2 oz and a Perfect Pitch for heavier.  A lot of money though... what do you know about the Levante Perfect Pitch and would it be a big step down from the Orochi version?  

It’s a big step down from the previous xx line of rods. The hyuga has received good feedback and would be a step up from the levante. 

1 hour ago, Angry John said:

I think the old pp has a lot higher rating and i was looking at the new one.  Says 1.2 oz and i thought the old had a 2oz top end.  Is it a weaker rod???  Wish companies used CCS data to help us compare...

You are correct on the old rating of 2oz. That rod had a great tip section and made it feel less powerful than it was. That’s why it gets such high praise because of its tip. I actually sold my f6 tour versatile because it felt more stout than the perfect pitch and didn’t seem to load up as well. 2oz may of been a little generous but I’ve pitched 1.25oz tungsten/hook/bait with it and that is at least 1.5oz total weight. 

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 I don't really have a need for a new perfect pitch, but I'm so dang curious about this amazing tip everyone seems to talk about that I think I'll be forced to pick one up if the reviews are as positive as they were for the old model. 

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