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I'd love to build up a super-compact ultralight BFS rig but i'm not able to find much online..
am I after something that doesn't exist? I can find lots of 2 piece but nothing that breaks down smaller..

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I know there are some multipart trout casting rods out of Japan, Diawa has one in their Wise Stream line. 

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Ive seen a lot online 3 pc but out of china dont know what quality they are seem to be around the 25 to 40 $ mark 

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I put casting guides on a 1-piece spinning rod and it functions well. That may be an option for you if nothing else. I thought the lack of a trigger would bug me but it really doesn't-  TBH I kindve like being able to wrap my fingers around the rod & sidearm cast it. Maybe it would be an issue on a stouter rod w/more resistance?

   Admittedly my threadwork wont win any beauty contests, but it slings some of my 1/10 oz cranks when creekfishing better than any rod I've used.

 

Good luck with your search.

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The market is too small for L or ML bait casting travel rod, UL travel spinning rods would be available over the counter. You can try contacting Fenwick or St Croix if they make 3 piece L or UL rod blank or a site sponsor DVT custom rod builder.

Tom

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This is the Daiwa rod I was thinking of:

https://www.finesse-fishing.com/daiwa-wise-stream-45ulb-3.html

 

5 hours ago, Maxximus Redneckus said:

Ive seen a lot online 3 pc but out of china dont know what quality they are seem to be around the 25 to 40 $ mark 

The Kuying rods sold on Aliexpress are amazing for the money, at twice the price I would still buy them.  I don’t know if they have a UL travel casting rod but it would be worth a look. 

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16 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

This is the Daiwa rod I was thinking of:

https://www.finesse-fishing.com/daiwa-wise-stream-45ulb-3.html

 

The Kuying rods sold on Aliexpress are amazing for the money, at twice the price I would still buy them.  I don’t know if they have a UL travel casting rod but it would be worth a look. 

Good find, didn't know Daiwa made a UL bait casting rod.

Tom

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4 minutes ago, WRB said:

Good find, didn't know Daiwa made a UL bait casting rod.

Tom

The Japanese branch makes all sorts of rods that never make it to the US. 

 

I wouldn’t say that ultralight is casting is super common over there, but it’s enough that there are a couple dozen companies cranking out high-end rods and reels specifically for ultralight baitcasting for trout.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrQAtakEbQa-YZ6zmESV92w

 

Check out this guy’s channel.  It’s almost all UL casting gear being fished in some unbelievably gorgeous terrain in Japan. 

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The Tsurinoya Dragon rods are pretty good and come in a 6' and 5' UL 2pc.  Once broken down they come out to 3 feet long or under.  That's pretty compact.  

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Oops accidentally deleted the wrong post. Thought I’d found something close to home (Australia) but it ended up being a spin rod. 

Thanks for the responses guys!

The Daiwa wise stream looks great, wondering if 4’5” would be too short tho?

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Get a JDM telescopic rod. These are better than a normal multi piece rod. And they make these down to small extreme finesse sizes that don’t exist anywhere else. I’m sure you can find them if you search hard enough.

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2 hours ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

Thought I’d found something close to home (Australia)

 

 

Oh, well then check out Bone World rods then. They have a multi-piece light power casting rod that is apparently quite nice. It may not be light enough for what you’re looking for, but you should be able to get it quite easily down there.

 

A lot of the Japanese trout rods are very short because they’re fishing some incredibly narrow waters. Definitely check out some of those videos that I liked, it will give you an idea of what these rods can do. 

 

I believe there is a longer model of the wise stream travel rod, somewhere around 6 feet I think. 

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Fenwick has one. I have one in their HMG spinning configuration and I have landed some nice fish, including the one in my profile picture.

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4 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

Oh, well then check out Bone World rods then. They have a multi-piece light power casting rod that is apparently quite nice. It may not be light enough for what you’re looking for, but you should be able to get it quite easily down there.

 

A lot of the Japanese trout rods are very short because they’re fishing some incredibly narrow waters. Definitely check out some of those videos that I liked, it will give you an idea of what these rods can do. 

 

I believe there is a longer model of the wise stream travel rod, somewhere around 6 feet I think. 

that channel is the thing that really caught my eye, been watching them non stop for the last couple of weeks!!

how rad are their setups?!!!!
I think it's best to sit on it for a while (trout season closes here  next Monday), want to finish my light Tatula 100 lightweight spool/2-6kg 6' rig before I start working on the next setup (I already have 4 spin and 4 fly setups)

 

Update:

actually stuff it it, just bought the 4'5" Daiwa YOLO
, think it would look rad with a Daiwa Air Stream Custom (I'd love to put a Shimano Conquest BFS on it but dunno if I can stomach a Daiwa/Shimano combo cos I'm a big Daiwa fan)

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8 hours ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

 

Update:

actually stuff it it, just bought the 4'5" Daiwa YOLO
, think it would look rad with a Daiwa Air Stream Custom (I'd love to put a Shimano Conquest BFS on it but dunno if I can stomach a Daiwa/Shimano combo cos I'm a big Daiwa fan)

I think the ASC would be a perfect for for that rod. The tiny spool capacity is well suited to an ultra short rod.  

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My only concerns with the Air Stream Custom is that it’s freshwater only and it’s quite chunky and modern looking. A Shimano Conquest or AG Ambassadeur would definitely get me the astheic I’m after. Ill try my Tatula with the honeycomb spool and see how it goes

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29 minutes ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

My only concerns with the Air Stream Custom is that it’s freshwater only and it’s quite chunky and modern looking. A Shimano Conquest or AG Ambassadeur would definitely get me the astheic I’m after. Ill try my Tatula with the honeycomb spool and see how it goes

I don’t know what makes it fresh-water only, as far as I know it has an aluminum frame and plastic sideplates. Maybe the bearings?

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18 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

I don’t know what makes it fresh-water only, as far as I know it has an aluminum frame and plastic sideplates. Maybe the bearings?

"Freshwater only (ball bearings are all high precision stainless steel bearings, not anti-rust treated)"

No point trying to fight it...Shimano Conquest BFS is it

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11 hours ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

"Freshwater only (ball bearings are all high precision stainless steel bearings, not anti-rust treated)"

No point trying to fight it...Shimano Conquest BFS is it

Hah.   I am sure the Conquest BFS will be great as well. 

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Ceramics in a used BFS  reel ...saltwater wont bother them ive seen sets go for 12 bucks

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15 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

Hah.   I am sure the Conquest BFS will be great as well. 

Currently looking at a Daiwa Alphas Air (it looks a bit chunky tho), they're about half the cost of a Conquest in Aus

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42 minutes ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

Currently looking at a Daiwa Alphas Air (it looks a bit chunky tho), they're about half the cost of a Conquest in Aus

Alphas are pretty small reels.  I can't think of too many reels that are smaller.  

Daiwa-Alphas-SV-size.jpg

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1 hour ago, BaitFinesse said:

Alphas are pretty small reels.  I can't think of too many reels that are smaller.  

Daiwa-Alphas-SV-size.jpg

Sweet as. Cheers for that, it may look a bit big on a 4’5” rod...the alphas air will be bigger than the new Tatula (my point of reference) won’t it? 

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2 hours ago, Benjamin Kinsman said:

Sweet as. Cheers for that, it may look a bit big on a 4’5” rod...the alphas air will be bigger than the new Tatula (my point of reference) won’t it? 

I'm not sure about the new Tatula but probably.  It is considerably smaller than the Tatula CT.  The new Tatula weighs in at 6.9 oz with a plastic handle side plate and brass gears.  An older Alphas with an aluminum side plate and brass gears weighs in at around 6.5 oz.  This would indicate that the Alphas is smaller than the new Tatulas but I don't know by how much.  Size wise they are very similar to the Curado 70 reels.  I've got both and they are basically the same size.

 

Here is a pic to get an idea what it will look like on a short UL rod.  This is a TT member rods and reels.  I believe it is a 4'5" rod with an Alphas Air Stream Cuatom on it.

 

The round reel is my Monoblock on a light powered casting rod.  The Monoblocks are pretty small round reels.  They are roughly Conquest 50 sized.  

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1 hour ago, BaitFinesse said:

I'm not sure about the new Tatula but probably.  It is considerably smaller than the Tatula CT.  The new Tatula weighs in at 6.9 oz with a plastic handle side plate and brass gears.  An older Alphas with an aluminum side plate and brass gears weighs in at around 6.5 oz.  This would indicate that the Alphas is smaller than the new Tatulas but I don't know by how much.  Size wise they are very similar to the Curado 70 reels.  I've got both and they are basically the same size.

 

Here is a pic to get an idea what it will look like on a short UL rod.  This is a TT member rods and reels.  I believe it is a 4'5" rod with an Alphas Air Stream Cuatom on it.

 

The round reel is my Monoblock on a light powered casting rod.  The Monoblocks are pretty small round reels.  They are roughly Conquest 50 sized.  

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ah ok that size looks ok. 

i can get the alphas air here for $399aud (conquest will cost $680aud)
d**n the Monoblock looks epic!!! The round reel looks way cooler!! Any other round BFS capable reels you'd recommend? 

Bfs is such a rabbithole

 

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