Structure spoons are different from flutter spoons, vertical vs horizontal presentations.

Hopkins shorty is a structure spoon, 6" Doctor spoons are flutter, both are older then we are. Nichols makes an excellent flutter spoon. Structure spoons between 1/4 to 1 oz have been covered in detail several times on BR.

 

 

 

   Do you actually want some big, heavy garbage can lid? 'Cause if you don't, and don't want to buy a new rod (I didn't say that! ?? ) then just get either the Thomas Buoyant in 1/2 or 5/8 oz., or the Eppinger Magnum Flutterchuck at 1/2 oz., or the 7/8 oz. Big Ed Flutterchuck. Both of them flutter well enough, and you can use the gear you have right now to see whether you really like this technique or not.

   Although you can snap both of them, the Flutterchucks will also produce as twitch spoons.  

   BTW .... I'm a shorecaster, not a boatman. Take that into consideration.

   Good luck!                 jj     

10 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   Do you actually want some big, heavy garbage can lid? 'Cause if you don't, and don't want to buy a new rod (I didn't say that! ?? ) then just get either the Thomas Buoyant in 1/2 or 5/8 oz., or the Eppinger Magnum Flutterchuck at 1/2 oz., or the 7/8 oz. Big Ed Flutterchuck. Both of them flutter well enough, and you can use the gear you have right now to see whether you really like this technique or not.

   Although you can snap both of them, the Flutterchucks will also produce as twitch spoons.  

   BTW .... I'm a shorecaster, not a boatman. Take that into consideration.

   Good luck!                 jj     

Oh, no, no garbage can lid for me - ever. LOL

33 minutes ago, Eddie101 said:

Oh, no, no garbage can lid for me - ever. LOL

 

    Uh ...... I may have exaggerated, just a wee bit.  ?? 

   BTW - I don't know whether there are any public pools open where you are, or whether you can find a private pool to use, but pools provide the best environment to actually see what a lure is doing. This is very important for spoons, flutter or otherwise.    jj

Now the only experience I have with vertical jigging spoons is done through an 8” hole in the ice for walleye in the winter, but I have done a good amount of vertical jigging for musky in the late fall with bondy baits (up to 11 oz plastics) and fuzzy duzzits, which are just a monster sized blade bait. One thing that made jigging these huge baits much easier is having handle long enough to go under your armpit, allows you to get a lot more leverage on the rod and not work so hard. Another thing I have used which worked super well for vertical presentations as well as throwing regular baits was a jig ripper handle. It is a vertical handle that goes in front of the reel seat and gives you a lot better grip to jig for hours. Not sure how hard it is to jig these bass spoons, but if their anything like musky baits than making some adjustments can really save the day. One other thing, the longer the rod is the less you have to move the rod to get the bait to move. You lifting up a foot on a 9’ rod is going to move the bait a lot more than an 8’ rod, which again is going to save you energy throughout the day. All of my musky jigging is done on a 9’6” extra extra heavy chaos tackle assault stick 2020 rated up to 24 oz lures.