13 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

The impression I got from the SPR review was the it was a more impressive open water caster than the magV pixy but worse as a pitching reel.  Odd tidbit: the SPR uses the same centrifugal brake found in the same era salt water jigging reels such as the arid red tune.  Its like they took this braking system and said "let's try it in a pixy as a casting reel".  My understanding of this brake is that is was originally intended to control the spool when the reel was in free spool and a bait is falling down.  

 

I think you nailed it. Control by angular momentum exchange by braking blocks, in a situation where the speed is almost constant. MagV is more of a short-cast/pitchingish system.

 

Since you quoted the Pixy series, what could you tell me about the PX68 MagZ finesse tuned? I'm curious about it, since it's rampless, but spring-loaded, by a bigger spring, almost the diameter of the spool. Maybe a Magforce Air precursor?

 

 

22 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

 

I think you nailed it. Control by angular momentum exchange by braking blocks, in a situation where the speed is almost constant. MagV is more of a short-cast/pitchingish system.

 

Since you quoted the Pixy series, what could you tell me about the PX68 MagZ finesse tuned? I'm curious about it, since it's rampless, but spring-loaded, by a bigger spring, almost the diameter of the spool. Maybe a Magforce Air precursor?

 

 

I'm not super familiar with the pixy reels but they have magV magZ and fixed rotor spools.  The "normal" spool is a 31mm magV spool.  I owned one for a while and it cast ok but not great by today's standards.  The Ize finesse spool has a fixed rotor and people either love it or hate it depending on what camp you are in.  My magV pixy felt choked off in distance compared to a modern mgl spool.  It did pitch really well though.  When it came to casting I had to turn the brakes down and cast softer.  If I turned it up to cast harder for more distance it felt way choked off at the end of the cast.  I was going to stretch the spring out to make it stiffer but sold it when the market was still strong on them.  

18 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

I'm not super familiar with the pixy reels but they have magV magZ and fixed rotor spools.  The "normal" spool is a 31mm magV spool.  I owned one for a while and it cast ok but not great by today's standards.  The Ize finesse spool has a fixed rotor and people either love it or hate it depending on what camp you are in.  My magV pixy felt choked off in distance compared to a modern mgl spool.  It did pitch really well though.  When it came to casting I had to turn the brakes down and cast softer.  If I turned it up to cast harder for more distance it felt way choked off at the end of the cast.  I was going to stretch the spring out to make it stiffer but sold it when the market was still strong on them.  

 

My PX68L has a mobile rotor or inductor cup. Brought It brand new and got a Ray's studio ultra bfs spool. The original spool, heavier for the present bfs standard, isn't a usual magZ spool. The rotor has a resistance to move out in a very MagZish manner. The Ray's studio ultrafinesse spool is a typical magZ one, with a plastic ramp and micro springs. Yet, the rotor moves out easier than in the original spool, in a MagVish pattern.  Bellow is the ultrafinesse and the original spool. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/Imp3Sxj

On 3/31/2022 at 10:05 PM, ghost said:

I've noticed that its magnetic braking from Shimano, Daiwa and Abu Garcia; even Kasking is using magnetic than centrifugal. Why is that?

 

So people can argue about it online

1 minute ago, ska4fun said:

 

My PX68L has a mobile rotor or inductor cup. Brought It brand new and got a Ray's studio ultra bfs spool. The original spool, heavier for the present bfs standard, isn't a usual magZ spool. The rotor has a resistance to move out in a very MagZish manner. The Ray's studio ultrafinesse spool is a typical magZ one, with a plastic ramp and micro springs. Yet, the rotor moves out easier than in the original spool, in a MagVish pattern.  Bellow is the ultrafinesse and the original spool. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/Imp3Sxj

The plastic ramp style is actually what the Daiwa sv and air reels use.  The magZ reels use centrifugal weights to push out the rotor instead.  Older magV needed the sloped spool edges to guide the rotor out when the centrifugal weights rode on the slope.  Later magZ added some piece inside to guide the centrifugal weights and rotor out so the spools became flat bottomed.  The Ray's spools use the same two ramps the sv spools use but have a thinner rotor that brakes less.  Guys even swap those rotors on sv spools to "wake them up".  

10 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

The plastic ramp style is actually what the Daiwa sv and air reels use.  The magZ reels use centrifugal weights to push out the rotor instead.  Older magV needed the sloped spool edges to guide the rotor out when the centrifugal weights rode on the slope.  Later magZ added some piece inside to guide the centrifugal weights and rotor out so the spools became flat bottomed.  The Ray's spools use the same two ramps the sv spools use but have a thinner rotor that brakes less.  Guys even swap those rotors on sv spools to "wake them up".  

 

That's make a lot of sense. Now I see that. Took my T100 spool and noticed the inductor cup has the same strutucture as the original spool in the PX68L. 

 

Thank you very much.