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hi there friends, I have noticed that when I use spring lock hooks, expecially in 1/0 or 2/0 have terrible hookups compared to normal ewg hooks, I feel like the spring removes some gap for the bait to collapse and that might be the issue, but im not sure, I might try removing almost all of the spring lock except maybe a loop or two to increase the collapse space, any other ideas could be helpful! thanks

 

 

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What type of soft plastics are using?

Tom

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3 minutes ago, WRB said:

What type of soft plastics are using?

Tom

small little 4 inch finesse straight tail worms, some roboworm, some garry yamamoto cuttertail, some don iovino spade tail, zmans,  and sometimes small kalins grubs. specific hook is an owner 1/0 twist lock finesse hook.

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ACouldn’t determine the hook wire diameter?

Big hook for small finesse worms imo.

I use Owner 5133 size 1/0 for 4”-5” and 2/0 for 6” or fat body small finesse soft plastic. 

If you want to keep the worm head from sliding down use rubber Peg-It through the hook eye after tying on the hook. Finesse worms snip off the ends about 1/16” each side of the hook eye.

I think snipping off the CPS spring shorter will help much, give it try and set the hook harder.

Tom

PS, 5133 size 1/0 is .033D, size 2/0 .037D.

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6 minutes ago, WRB said:

I think snipping off the CPS spring shorter will help much, give it try and set the hook harder.

Tom

excellent council! I just did you advice! will let you know how it works, I set three worms up with different amounts of spring taken off to see which one works best, thanks for the troubleshooting as always!

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My personal opinion, throw em in the trash can!

 

Of all the hooks I've ever used these had the worst hookup ratio. 

 

95% of my plastics are thrown on straight shank round bend hooks. I'm old school, I want that weight & worm to go on up the line out the way.

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1 hour ago, Catt said:

My personal opinion, throw em in the trash can!

 

Of all the hooks I've ever used these had the worst hookup ratio. 

 

95% of my plastics are thrown on straight shank round bend hooks. I'm old school, I want that weight & worm to go on up the line out the way.

I see, thanks for insight!

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You can screw in a small or medium size centering pin screw (aka "CPS") by itself, and then use a regular dropshot hook like a finesse wide gap putting the hook through the spring after threading the spring in (nose hooked).

 

Sometimes finesse-ish worms (like a 4.5" Robowworm) don't stay where they need to long enough to get bit. If that is happening with something like an Owner straight shank worm hook, I usually use a flat toothpick (I usually have to whittle them down to fit smaller hooks) through the eye and then clipped off flush with the worm. I also sometimes use Rebarb or Cover Shot worm hooks. 

 

 I have tried the hooks you're using and didn't find them particularly effective. You might also try some different hook setting techniques to see if that helps if you are determined to use those hooks.The twist lock finesse and also the similar hook from Decoy are also very thin gauge and that design tends to bend relatively easy.

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I think you're already there....but don't write off all screwlock applications.  One hook/spring combination might prevent any hookups.  Another could be perfect.   I use Owner Twistloc in probably 90% of my t-rigged and weightless plastics.  But I hate spring baitholder on some jigheads, like shaky.  So....it depends

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