Pat Brown Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I'm about to pull the trigger on some fancy frog gear and I'm sort of torn on a lot of Daiwa's offerings. The SV150 looks incredibly nice and seems like it should fit the bill nicely. The TAT200 is really nice - 7:3:1 is as slow as I'd go and an 8 speed would be more versatile - but I can't find a spool this deep with 8 speed reel. The Coastal TWS 150 HSL looks killer 7:1:1 is a really nice ratio and it looks sturdy and has nice line capacity. I've read some older threads (a little confusing) where people talk about deeper spools that you can drop into some of the regular Daiwa offerings? Is there a regular 8 speed Daiwa offering where I can drop in a 200 size spool and then have that deeper spool for heavier braid? Should I just get the 200 in the 7:3:1 and accept that it's a little slower than 8 and try to make it work? I've fished frogs on 6 speed reels and it's fine but an 8 speed I can throw a buzzbait and a frog and that's really all I throw for topwater and that makes 8 speed much more appealing. Thoughts bass resource hive mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Solution WRB Posted October 7 Super User Solution Share Posted October 7 Daiwa Tatula 200 7.3:1 has a high 32.2” IPT that will not change much after casting 40 yards. Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GReb Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 The coastal is a solid frogging reel. It was designed for braid and holds plenty of it. It is available in 8.1 ratio. It has aluminum frames and side plates and has a 100mm handle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishingmickey Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Hey Pat, The 200 Coastal HSL with that big handle and at 7.3:1 ratio should fill the frog rod bill very nicely. The Coast 150 HSL is on sale ( 50 bucks cheaper at TW) and should still work fine. But for winching a big'un out of the slop I'd go with the big handled 200. Might check the JDM sites and be able to get a better buy. Also it would be a good for a dual purpose salt water "coastal" reel. FM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Brown Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 Making me think I should probably just go for the TAT200 in 7:3:1 and look for a deal on it. I feel like it'll be plenty of IPT for me - I tend to fish frogs on a pretty tight line - my experience has taught me you want to do that with a frog anyway. I don't think it'll make me THAT less efficient in a day's time fishing a frog - I fish em pretty slow in general. Frog reels get gross and disgusting and beat to a pulp anyways so saving some money makes sense also. EDIT: Ordered the Tatula 200 in 7:3:1 for 15% off of 170 with free shipping (145$) to my house tomorrow on Amazon. Let y'all know how it goes! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Brown Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 It's here. Oiled and greased it up and stuffed it with 65 lb braid and it's on my Fred's Magic Stick just waiting for me to be done with work so I can toss this grey ghost Bobby's Perfect Frog on it 😎😎😎😏😏😏🎣🎣🎣🐸🐸🐸 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric 26 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 @Pat Brown After seeing many of your pictures I’m sure a hog photo will follow the fishing trip 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbox99 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 On 10/7/2024 at 10:32 AM, Pat Brown said: I'm about to pull the trigger on some fancy frog gear and I'm sort of torn on a lot of Daiwa's offerings. The SV150 looks incredibly nice and seems like it should fit the bill nicely. The TAT200 is really nice - 7:3:1 is as slow as I'd go and an 8 speed would be more versatile - but I can't find a spool this deep with 8 speed reel. The Coastal TWS 150 HSL looks killer 7:1:1 is a really nice ratio and it looks sturdy and has nice line capacity. I've read some older threads (a little confusing) where people talk about deeper spools that you can drop into some of the regular Daiwa offerings? Is there a regular 8 speed Daiwa offering where I can drop in a 200 size spool and then have that deeper spool for heavier braid? Should I just get the 200 in the 7:3:1 and accept that it's a little slower than 8 and try to make it work? I've fished frogs on 6 speed reels and it's fine but an 8 speed I can throw a buzzbait and a frog and that's really all I throw for topwater and that makes 8 speed much more appealing. Thoughts bass resource hive mind? You can put 8:1 gears in the 200 if you want. I wouldn't and I wouldn't use that reel for frogs. That high capacity spool is best with large diameter plastic line and the fixed inductor Magforce braking is well suited to glide baits and other big awkward baits. For frog fishing you would want something with a faster braking profile like the Tatula 150 or Tatula 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Brown Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 23 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said: You can put 8:1 gears in the 200 if you want. I wouldn't and I wouldn't use that reel for frogs. That high capacity spool is best with large diameter plastic line and the fixed inductor Magforce braking is well suited to glide baits and other big awkward baits. For frog fishing you would want something with a faster braking profile like the Tatula 150 or Tatula 100. Wow interesting about the ability to change the gear ratio, didn't know one could do that and I appreciate that information - the 7 speed is more than adequate - I actually had fun fishing a frog for a week on my Tatula 200 with a 6:3:1 - part of the reason I went for the Tatula 200 with a 7:3:1. Just a little more efficient when picking apart an area perhaps but I fish frogs slowly on a tight line - so the speed of retrieval turns out to be less important. Also anything that slows my reaction time just a hair probably mean a few more fish in the boat 😂😉. The high capacity spool is so I don't cast my entire spool of super heavy braid out - it works for that! As for the braking system? Uh....I will be okay. I don't actually use braking systems much and I cast frogs about 50 yards max - usually much more gentle close range pitches and roll cases to targets - and that 50 yard cast would be a really silly long cast even for me most days and the brakes on the 6:3:1 Tatula 200 make it so I can cast a tiny little popping frog further than I need without backlashing or throwing my shoulder out so I'm guessing the 7:3:1 will be okay and suit my needs. I do appreciate the concern - fishing is different for everyone! 😎😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Brown Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 Yesterday I got about an hour before sunset of casting (no catching 🥹🥹🥹) and I love it! I could cast my frog almost across the 5 acre pond I fish 😂😂😂 - no WAY I'd EVER actually fish a frog that far from me in real fishing applications and it did this with ease and minimal break adjustments and a full spool of 65 lb braid. The more efficient nature of the wider spool definitely was noticeable on long casts and I could also appreciate a more steady gradient of IPT from the end of a cast to nearby - basically nerdy words for - it's nice and fun to fish a frog with! It's definitely a heavy reel but I'm 6'4 and have large hands and arms - it suits me and the way I fish a frog just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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