@txchaser

Actually, if you had left the context in my post, the answer was there - it was in the brake inductors and spool capacities.  

If you want Zillion to cast a normal range of lures from 1/8 to 1 oz on 12-16-lb mono, it's really quite versatile with stock 1016SV spool.  

If you want to cast over an ounce, e.g. big swimbaits, and still overlap down to 1/4 oz, maybe use bigger mono, you don't want SV, but a (deeper) MagZ spool, instead.  

If you want to cast 1/8 oz and still up to a full ounce to max distance, threadline braid on BFS-SV spool turns it into a pocket rocket.  

If you want to cast 1/16 to 3/8 oz on threadline braid, the lightest fixed-inductor BFS spools will throw the light range farther than you need to fish.  

 

Spools go on sale when they're closing out.  I bought MagZ 1012 for PE#2 to match on my CV-Z for 1/3-off.  

Same spool will swap into my other 34-mm Daiwas - Steez, Zillion(s), Ryoga.  

 

4 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

@txchaser

Actually, if you had left the context in my post, the answer was there - it was in the brake inductors and spool capacities.  

If you want Zillion to cast a normal range of lures from 1/8 to 1 oz on 12-16-lb mono, it's really quite versatile with stock 1016SV spool.  

If you want to cast over an ounce, e.g. big swimbaits, and still overlap down to 1/4 oz, maybe use bigger mono, you don't want SV, but a (deeper), MagZ spool, instead.  

If you want to cast 1/8 oz to a half-oz to max distance, threadline braid on BFS-SV spool turns it into a pocket rocket.  

If you want to cast 1/16 to 3/8 oz on threadline braid, the lightest fixed-inductor BFS spools will throw the light range farther than you need to fish.  

 

They go onsale when they're closing out.  I bought MagZ 1012 for PE#2 to match on my CVZ for 1/3-off.  

Same spool will swap into all my 34-mm Daiwas - Steez, Zillion, Ryoga.  

 

Thanks, much appreciated. Sounds like I end up using the mag spool there anyway because the zillion HD just feels like a perfect fit above about an oz anyway. 

 

I have a couple of applications that the BFS-SV could be fun on, so that's a new one for the list. 

 

Bummer about them only happening on closeout - I'd buy ten SV-boost if I could get them at a "not $100" kind of price. 

 

Any thoughts on the 'maybe a sticky inductor' question?

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa.html

@txchaser - send your question to Jun Sonada - he has great English and will have a solution for you.  

 

While I'm here, the caveat for anyone who followed this and wants to swap spools in Daiwa.  

Spindle widths are never exact.  Before you open palm plate latch, always open Zero Adjust knob (CCW).  After swapping spools, the last thing after latching the palm plate is re-set Zero (CW) to incipient side-play.  This prevents damaging the palm plate latch, buckling the spindle, etc.  

 

8 hours ago, txchaser said:

Seems like a better fit here than starting a new thread:

1) do spools ever go on sale? I'd like some extras but at 1/2 the price of a whole reel it's hard to want to buy them

2) I have a zillion that maybe has a sticky inductor? Getting mid-cast fluffing or backlashes even up in the mid-teens setting on the magnet. It's like the reel has gone wild. Managable with thumb but definitely not working right. Manually pulling out the inductor it moves just fine so not totally stuck. But it behaves very differently than the other zillions both JDM and USDM. And I have a second one that kinda felt like it was doing the same thing this weekend, but not nearly as much. 

 

What's heavy line and lure in this context? 

Just get a Ray's spool and be done with it.  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256007513104

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123563990369

The $80 is deeper and has a fixed inductor that you can adjust I'm 4 diffrent positions.

 

There is also this one that is sold by the same guy that sell rebranded Ray's Studio spools but I've never seen this one before.  This might be your best bet but it's an unknown.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256914045522?_skw=daiwa+spool&itmmeta=01JYKFA8NNNQXWN43M9XDFM3J1&hash=item3bd1453a52:g:xu8AAOSwcuJoE2OU&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1f%2Ftn4mlGZVc8wDKAREcg7M%2B2f0p2f1UHqkwZd5Y%2Bm%2BCf2YLhOxV5Y12SjNxIzTmEK0KQGhT60bjdBoXsvmfbXXgpR%2BPk%2B163JQC7PT4fcxxTTg9gV4ZpENTYlZ8DOkUmlvsNm%2BcspbXc%2BJY52EDlC9ETIXE0%2FZ8GYhwRIXVI1Gi57MJQLflXqAyKbCvLkR7F3oCIEKViRsO0Mwvvm0z73%2BPsA0mzMB%2BJELouGSDLee0vEWqFbvUvb7TIsZs9JmBM0%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_iKqe_0ZQ

2 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256914045522

For posting links, you never need anything to the right of the first ?

On 6/14/2025 at 1:46 AM, GetFishorDieTryin said:

It doesn't matter how play free the handle is on the reel if the knobs have slop in them, youre going to feel it.  It's not a difficult fix and it would be cheap as well, but both Daiwa and Shimano still have problems with that.  

Yea, the knobs lateral play is something i remove the second i buy a new reels. Those shims are like $2 for a set of 100 on Aliexpress, so there's no excuse for not removing the play.

13 hours ago, txchaser said:

Seems like a better fit here than starting a new thread:

1) do spools ever go on sale? I'd like some extras but at 1/2 the price of a whole reel it's hard to want to buy them

2) I have a zillion that maybe has a sticky inductor? Getting mid-cast fluffing or backlashes even up in the mid-teens setting on the magnet. It's like the reel has gone wild. Managable with thumb but definitely not working right. Manually pulling out the inductor it moves just fine so not totally stuck. But it behaves very differently than the other zillions both JDM and USDM. And I have a second one that kinda felt like it was doing the same thing this weekend, but not nearly as much. 

 

 

If you need a spool, i'd grab a used one on ebay or japan auction sites. No reason to buy a new one, it's way too expensive, and sales on spools is something you ain't gonna find.

Yes, sticky inductors are a thing. Just this April i've had it happening on my Z2020. Dunk the spool into an ultrasonic cleaner, and everything was perfect after. No need to oil anything either, just clean it, and it should be fine.

5 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

Yea, the knobs lateral play is something i remove the second i buy a new reels. Those shims are like $2 for a set of 100 on Aliexpress, so there's no excuse for not removing the play

Right so why in the world cant shimano or daiwa do that for a 500$ reel.  Thats one thing that ZB and VS do well, the handles are rock solid with parts that won't corrode the second they see SW.

54 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

Right so why in the world cant shimano or daiwa do that for a 500$ reel.  Thats one thing that ZB and VS do well, the handles are rock solid with parts that won't corrode the second they see SW.

Most high end reels that i do get, the play is not present or the absolute minimum (on baitcasters. no idea how it is on spinning reels). Daiwa used to not care, but newer releases since around 2016, i see a lot of the lateral play removed from factory.

21 hours ago, ABU is overpriced said:

Most high end reels that i do get, the play is not present or the absolute minimum (on baitcasters. no idea how it is on spinning reels). Daiwa used to not care, but newer releases since around 2016, i see a lot of the lateral play removed from factory.

It seems to be more of an issue on spinning reels, being on the island we sold almost 4 eggbeaters to every casting reel and stock reflected that.  When I worked at a shop the owner was the one who showed me that.  When we bought our personal reels we went through every box until we found a really good one.  With the Daiwa reels its didn't seem to matter how much they cost.  You could get an Exceler with a perfect tolerance or get a Certate with a 4mm of slop in the knob, but the lateral handle play was generally solid.  The problem is when the connection has play it makes the entire reel feel sloppy.  I suspect they did it to sell aftermarket.  When my boss said something to the sales rep, who he had known most of his life, he said that Daiwa does some strange things.  He felt the mechanism for the bail on the BG was superior to the ones on the higher end reels.  I wasn't there, Im not sure what he meant by that, if it was better at reducing false or premature closure, or if it was a more positive feel.